Round 2: Sharrows Appear on the “4th Street Bike Boulevard”

In what has to be a double victory for the Los Angeles County Bike Coalition, reports are coming in that Sharrows are appearing on 4th Street in the Mid-Wilshire and Koreatown areas.  The LACBC hasn’t just been the leader in pushing for Sharrows on the street, but also in turning 4th Street, a popular bike route, into something resembling the Bike Boulevards of Portland and Berkeley.

Announcing the find on twitter, @danceralamode joked that finding a Sharrow is like a celebrity siting.  I’m sure there will be a lot more on the Sharrows arrival as the day and weeks go on. But in the meantime, if you spot a Sharrow while riding in the city, and you’re not on Fountain, 4th Street, NELA or Westwood, drop us a line and send us a picture so we can help spread the word.

  • To be fair, @dudeonabike made the original joke, I was just surprised how genuine that feeling is. I thought I was going to topple over! Sharrows?! For me?!

    Thanks to all the people who have been pushing so hard for these to be real.

  • very happy!

  • Gina

    We need them on:

    1. Tujunga between Riverside Dr. and Magnolia Blvd in NoHo.

    2. Camarillo between Tujuna and Lankershiem in West Toluca Lake.

    3. Camarillo/Verdugo between Lankershiem and Pass Ave in Burbank. It’s barely one lane, there is a huge park (Griffith Park, North Hollywood Park) and tons of cyclists and it’s very dangerous!

  • ryloc

    i noticed the circle-arrow s’s on my commute to work today and now on my ride home, i get to see the sharrows. i don’t know why that’s exciting, but it is.

  • minibikebar

    Totally cool…I’m going to ride 4th street tomorrow. THANK YOU LACBC for your hard work…well done!

    Are the sharrows going in any other places else in the city besides Westwood, and NELA?

  • Dave A

    I just rode 4th this morning and saw these. I’m sad to see that, as on fountain, these sharrows are WAY too far to the right. In one place, where the street changes width, if you rode over the center you would impact the car parked right in front of it.

    Very happy they are there, however, that stretch of road can get kinda hairy when folks try and pass a biker going 15 MPH by going 40 MPH in the wrong lane (with a stop sign half a block further up) during rush hour.

  • Dave A

    Oh, and of course, thanks to LACBC for all your hard work getting this to happen. I’m excited to have these, and think they will improve my commute, even if it could have been executed even better by the city.

  • borfo

    We need them on every street.

  • Osnap

    “Camarillo/Verdugo between Lankershiem and Pass Ave in Burbank. It’s barely one lane, there is a huge park (Griffith Park, North Hollywood Park) and tons of cyclists and it’s very dangerous!”

    In 14 years of living in that area I have never seen a bike rider ever on this street.You do realize that the bike path is 3 blocks away from this and Riverside would be a much better place to put sharrows as it gets alsmost all bike traffic. This street is also extremely bumpy, filled with rocks / glass and is known for speeding. This isn’t in Burbank but Toluca Lake because the city of Burbank actually removed the entire right lane on Verdugo and made it a bike lane.

  • I realize that this may ruin the surprise but here are the Sharrows locations in LA’s pilot Sharrows project:

    1) Fountain Ave – Western Ave.to Vermont Ave.
    2) Adams Blvd – Vermont Ave to Figueroa St.
    3) Reseda Blvd – Vanowen St. to Valerio St.
    4) Westholme Ave – Santa Monica Bl to Hilgard Ave.
    5) 4th St – Wilton Pl to Commonwealth Ave
    6) Abbot Kinney Blvd – Venice Blvd to Main Street

    Remember to urge the City of LA to support the “Ride Where it’s Right” philosophy instead of the LADOT Bikeways Department’s favorite, “Ride to the Right.”

    Remember that Sharrows are an invitation to ride, not an instruction to move out of the way of motorists.

    Remember that with Sharrows, position matters in communicating right use for both motorists and cyclists. While not every cyclist is convinced by the Sharrow to use the center of the lane instead of the door zone, center placement indicates to motorists that cyclists can and should take the lane.

    Let’s work together to make sure that LA’s pilot Sharrows project is worthy of a Great City, not simply a move in the right direction.

    Stephen Box

  • Cory

    “This street is also extremely bumpy, filled with rocks / glass and is known for speeding.”

    Currently the City of Los Angeles has bike lanes on Riverside Drive west of Laurel Cyn. (Riverside Dr becomes Camarillo east of Tujunga, which then becomes Verdugo in Burbank east of Clybourn). The bike lanes on Verdugo currently end at Hollywood Way, leaving a gap in bike lanes (between Laurel Cyn and Hollywood Way) that could extend from Sepulveda all the way into Burbank. I ride through this section of Toluca Lake pretty frequently and I have never notice excessive bumps or glass, but I have noticed speeding through this primarily residential neighborhood. Speeding that I am sure that the residents of Toluca Lake would like to see reduced. I have measured the widths of Camarillo and there is enough room to include bike lanes along most of it by narrowing the travel lanes (which adds the benefit of calming traffic speeds) if not then sharrows. This street is primarily residential, flat, direct, and has a nice tree canopy. Adding bike lanes or sharrows would not remove any vehicle traffic capacity. It kind of sounds like a win/win for all users to me.

  • The priority here should have been on safety—safely integrating cyclists into the traffic flow of these narrow streets that can’t have bike lanes.

    I used to bike commute regularly on Fountain. The safety issue for cyclists on this street is that cars attempt to squeeze by at high speeds, despite the presence of opposing traffic. This is because drivers often use Fountain as a high-speed cut-through route to avoid traffic on Sunset or Santa Monica, which is a completely inappropriate use of a narrow street. A proper installation of sharrows, directing cyclists to maintain a consistent position in the lane, could have mitigated this problem, calming traffic and possibly encouraging foot traffic and local business. Instead, we get cycling facilities that reinforce dangerous behavior for all road users.

    It is plain that the parties responsible for the installation of these sharrows do not truly understand their purpose.

    I have to ask: why is Los Angeles not yet EMBARRASSED into taking some pride in how it treats cyclists and pedestrians? Is this city’s primary goal simply to shut up the cranky bike zealots by a sloppy, token gesture?

    If that’s the case, let’s make sure that plan backfires.

  • Regarding the sharrows on 4th, I rode them going West this morning, right in the center of the sharrows, and was not in the door zone or close to it. The problem was when I approached Wilton, and the sharrow is too far to the right and not in the center of the lane.

    I will see how they are going East this evening.

  • Eric B

    I’m excited to hear they’re coming to Abbot Kinney. I thought that street would be ideal for these. Will do a full report once they’re striped, as that is on my commute route. They recently lowered the speed limit from 35 mph to 30 mph. Cars rarely get up to that speed since it would be truly dangerous. Only in LA could 30 mph be considered a safe speed for a pedestrian-oriented commercial main street. Here’s hoping they narrow the traffic lane, double the sidewalk width, and add a few mid-block crossings.

  • In the words of Flavor Flav:

    Yea boi!!!