Caution! Please Pass with Care!

3_18_10_eco_1.jpgSigns also available in Spanish.  Photo: LA Ecovillage

When I first heard of the signs that popped up all over Los Angeles two nights ago urging drivers to pass cyclists with care, my first thoughts were that L.A.’s D.I.Y. culture has reached a tipping point.  Not only have advocates learned that the LADOT and other city departments are unwilling to sacrifice car capacity to cyclist or pedestrian safety, but now they’ve learned that because of the city’s fiscal woes, the city is unable to do anything about other people taking matters into their own hands.

In 2008, a group of cycling activists painted bike lanes across Fletcher Bridge to the cheers of cyclists and the frowns of LADOT.  The lane was removed within days.  Last fall, the (presumably) another group of cyclists painted a series of Sharrows in Northeast Los Angeles.  LADOT vowed they would be off the street sometime last month, three months after they first appeared.  Yet, those Sharrows still remain.

Now we see cyclists, perhaps exhausted by LADOT’s constant stalling on creating a Sharrows program despite both funding and the support of the local neighborhood council being in place for over a year; putting up their own "Sharrow Signs."  Signs have been spotted on Santa Monica Boulevard, Park Avenue and the "4th Street Bike Boulevard."

As you might expect, the reaction from cyclists has been overwhelmingly supportive.  I first heard of the signage @Area 45 on twitter who beamed that the signs were the work of Good Samaritans.  Also at twitter, Ross Hirsch tweeted at the Mayor, "I think these simple signs really appeal to drivers AND cyclists–do you?"  Meanwhile, the Eco-Village blog posited that the work was effort of "Wheelpersons Heartily Endorsing Active Transportation Paradigms And Signalized Traffic Equity" (W.H.E.A.T. P.A.S.T.E).  However, you know that author Joe Linton is joking because he quotes a consultant for the city’s pedestrian advisory committee.  Like the city bothers to pay consultants for that body!

If you’ve seen more of these signs, please let us know in the comments section.  Also, even though I’m pretending I don’t know who is putting up these signs, I can tell you he/she/they read Streetsblog so leave your comments for them below too.

  • Delia

    Hooray! Great idea.

  • alexis

    seeing these signs all around town makes me smile!

  • Where can I get some of these signs?

  • Anna

    So proactive!

  • I saw one on Glendale/Temple! Love them!

  • Mike G.

    A sincere “Thank You” for taking the initiative, time and energy to do this.

  • Spokker

    What’s passing with care just so we are all aware?

    I just move into the next lane over whether I hold up traffic doing it or not. Some people inch into the next lane a little bit, while others just pass in the same lane whether there’s room or not.

    One time I was having trouble passing a cyclist safely because the traffic in the next lane was roaring by, leaving me without an opening to merge, and the guy behind me started honking and then he dangerously swerved around me. That kind of shit is crazy. I wish they hadn’t cut the Metrolink service so I could get to work on the weekends without driving.

  • i love the simple bold graphics. they remind me of skull! i’d love to see a round with the sharrow that said, “Vehicle Code 21200” with “bikes are traffic” or “bicycles have right to the road.”

    cuz even if they pass with care they might still think we belong on the sidewalk.

    only because i hate when people do this to me, if “the person” who made this RAD Poster, could post the bike and sharrows graphic for use, maybe the custom slogans can be made by the “i’d love to see’s…”

    ; )

  • DIY is a great way to go. I don’t think the city has the political will or financial capacity to remove a large-scale DIY sharrow implementation. So, try to make them permanent. I suggest using reflective paint. Also, I’m sure someone in the city’s artist community could furnish a few templates.

  • The Little Dog that Laughed

    I heard they’ve been having fun! How can I get involved?!

  • The Little Dog that Laughed

    Hey those are easy to make! I will post a graphic in a few. I’m sure that the rad persons responsible for this would be delighted to see other campaigns join in!

  • Schweppity Schweppity WomWomWom

    I appreciate that the message is aimed at drivers and it is not in an overtly commanding tone. I would like to see fun eyecatching and playful slogans replace the word “caution” something like “hey lover… Please pass with care” the “bikes are traffic” one is great as well.

  • The more I think about this, the more I think the signs send a strange message.

    It just feeds into the existing driver mentality — OOH! CYCLIST! MUST. PASS. AT. ALL. COSTS!!!! But oh. I’ll pass them WITH CARE!

    I don’t think we need drivers to pass us with more care as much as we need drivers to cool their jets and drive at a reasonable speed for conditions, and to think about it before they pass at all.

    I’d rather talk to cyclists, anyway. I think cyclists are cooler. I’d do a sign like this:

    CYCLISTS!

    (sharrow graphic here)

    IT’S YOUR LANE!
    TAKE IT!

    All that being said, I am just blah blah blahing on the board, not making signs and posting them. I should just shut up. I know.

  • lil red

    I have seen them all over EP and ktown and it makes me smile. It’s nice to see the fruit of grass root labor. Yes we can get bogged down with the samantics of language. But the bottom line is that its great to see a positive message by ridaz for ridaz:…..

  • DIY/Vigilante engineering work is illegal and a blight, but don’t feel bad, because you vigilante stripe and symbol painting criminals (you know who you are, and so do I!) are in good company; many cities direct their staff to engage in criminal DIY projects that violate standards and laws (the non-standard bike box on 2nd street in Long Beach is a archetypical example). I don’t want amateurs or city paid crews creating amateur non-standard DIY/vigilante public infrastructure any more than I want a DIY/vigilante doctor in a public hospital or a DIY/vigilante police officer patrolling public streets. Taking the law into your own hands, by impersonating professionals, because you are not happy with their political masters’ lack of action, is not acceptable civilized public behavior. Or to put it bluntly; stop defacing our roads!

  • Dan,

    Although I certainly have my problems with the recent activism of cyclists (especially those who have motor vehicles or promote vigilante behavior), I would hardly compare some non-intrusive signs with a rogue physician or impersonating a police officer. Please tell us the dire threat presented by the signs under review.

    As for your pithy arguments…

    The typography—of which I have more than two decades of print production experience, in most every facet, for qualification—is good. Who are you to determine leading, kerning, faces, acceptable counters, and all rudiments required to understand readability respective to distance, speed and all that? What do you know about such “standards” which you fail to divulge? Please do tell which “standards” have been “violated.”

    The awareness promoted is indeed “civilized public behavior”—that is, unless one’s definition of “civilized” is whimpering in solitude far from where a problem occurs. (I imagine you would prefer segregated drinking fountains and lunch counters to be acceptable, correct? If I recall, the laws providing for such segregation was being broken when folk protested those measures not too many decades ago. And surely this analogy cannot be any more outrageous than the one you employed.) How can some decently designed signs placed out of the way and being far from visually invasive than the thousands of illegal billboards not be civilized?

    However, the “defacement” of your precious roads have since been removed by the Hollywood Beautification Team. (I have footage.) That should leave you to motor in peace without being bothered; perhaps you can reciprocate—unless you can competently provide some answers to the aforementioned queries.

  • @Randall BusTard,
    I was responding to the whole article, which covered much more than just the signs. My comments about standards and law violations were made primarily in regard to stripes and symbols, though it applies equally well to faux regulatory signs.

    Whether the signs were of the highest professional typographic quality is quite irrelevant to the issue of whether they are standard. Since you don’t seem understand highway standards and the enabling vehicle codes, class is now in session:

    It is illegal to place a non-standard sign (or any traffic control, including signs, stripes and symbols) that is not in the CA-MUTCD (or HDM), by virtue of CVC 21401. Your homework assignment is to read the law and recognize that the phrase “the uniform standards and specifications promulgated by the Department of Transportation” means the HDM and CA-MUTCD managed by Caltrans.

    Regarding the non sequitur comment about segregation; these signs are not in opposition to such laws; the passing laws in CA, such as CVC 21753 are just fine, the lack of enforcement these laws by police and prosecutors is a serious and pervasive statewide problem, and this has nothing to do with segregation. I made no complaints that could be rationally construed as support for the actual status quo segregation via CVC 21202 and CVC 21208 under which cyclists in CA now endure (are you even aware of this issue??), which BTW I have been actively opposing through CABO, and the video work on the CyclistView website and on the CyclistLorax YouTube channel for a number of years.

    How in the world do you see opposition to placement of DIY signs reminding motorists to pass with care (in line with the requirements of CVC 21750, and at best redundant) as analogous to support for a segregatory status quo?

    I’ll turn the question back at you; what are you doing to end the status quo segregation of bicyclists to the road edge and into bike lanes to get them out of the way, so passing is easier for motorists? Or do you just tacitly support such oppression? It’s no fun being accused of supporting something you oppose, so how do you like it?

    My comments also had nothing to do with motoring in peace, and your comment to that effect is litle more than a petty ad hominem attack on a traffic cycling educator, bicycling advocate, and lifelong cyclist. Whether or not I like or dislike the message is irrelevant to the issue I raised, and is in no rational way linked to motoring, happy or otherwise. I would ahve been just as bothered if the DIY signs had motorcycles or even car symbols instead of bike symbols.

    It also doesn’t matter whether or not I agree with the message on the signs, or the well-intentioned ideals of the DIY stripe painters, or the good intentions of the city staff that create non-standard facilities; such efforts are not an acceptable way to create or modify public infrastructure.

  • If the city won’t spend a penny on functioning motorist education campaign, the least the VC/Effective Cycling crowd could do is have a chuckle and shluff it off. You guys are like a cancer with the criticism of this stuff. Leave it to the car companies and the uncaring authorities to blame the victims of poor road design standards for bicycles on bicyclists themselves. Nobody seems to measure up to some holy standards you guys hold. We never seem to just shut up and deal with horribly designed streets unquestioningly the way your practices dictate. At least that is how your criticisms come off. Lighten up boys, we’re not all high speed, hyper aware, roadies. Some of us ride 10 mph or less, go the wrong way on the sidewalk, and should still be able to do so without worrying about some 2,000 lbs car killing us. I’m not trying to defend incompetent cycling, but you guys drive we towards that position every time I read the rhetoric of an inflamed “take the lane” proponent. Chill out please! This isn’t about the narrow interests of survival in the streets – these folks are building and awareness campaign on a $0 budget (or negative budget) on their own time because they believe in improving their city for cycling.

  • Dan Gutierrez just shot a load of truth with his mighty honesty stick and “woe is us” cyclists just don’t get it.

    He is actually a faithful ally but you’ll shit on him because he disagrees on one point. I like progressivism but the hive-mind like approach to it that sometimes creeps in is ugly.

    If you were smart you’d work with him on the stuff you agree with and let the rest be.

    But goddamn, we expect everybody else to follow the rule of law to the T and if they don’t they get a full blown expose on Streetsblog LA, which is fine. But then we turn around and go, oh we’re liberal and we know what’s good for everyone else so we don’t have to follow rules and regulations. That’s a bunch of shit.

  • Garvey Harkensen

    “if you were smart you’d work with him on the stuff you agree with and let the rest be.”

    agreed. Unfortunately gutierez is actually the one in violation of this simple principle.

  • Carter R

    Hey Damien,

    Thanks for all the hard work. I just wanted to mention that the “Contact Us” page/link is broken. I wanted to shoot you guys a quick question/idea re: 30/10.

    How can I get in touch?

    Best,

    Carter

  • Carter R

    DanGuerrero: “It also doesn’t matter whether or not I agree with the message on the signs, or the well-intentioned ideals of the DIY stripe painters, or the good intentions of the city staff that create non-standard facilities; such efforts are not an acceptable way to create or modify public infrastructure.”

    I think it’s really important to see these signs as not just “modifying a piece of public infrastructure,” but also a potent grassroots political statement and tool for raising community awareness.

    I think, in this case, bike activists are simply looking at what they can do within the letter of the law, but are actively challenging laws and public norms to achieve a perceived moral, social, and political objective.

    To that end, I say “well done!”

  • Carter R

    P.S. I am truly sorry and embarrassed, I meant Dan *Gutierrez*.

  • Steven Solomon

    I don’t see these signs as anything more than a public service anouncement on behalf of the cycling community who is being slaughtered the rate of about 1 hit and run every 2-4 weeks in Los Angeles. The LAPD doesn’t or can’t do much, the District Attny Coolidge refuses to even see Any case that doesn’t involve death. What are the cyclists supposed to do? These kids are excercising the right to post bills. It goes back hundreds of years. I love it. I think it’s about time the public space is used for something functional instead of for movies or rap stars! Bravo people.

  • @Ubmerto
    You do better when you ask me questions than make-up easily refutable accusations. I’m one of the few advocates you will meet that actually cares about ensuring that the full spectrum of cycling behaviors are understood and supported by the government, so this VC/EC strawman and silly speed comments are way off the mark. I have a presentation on the Cyclist View website (Equitable Planning and Design) that describes what it takes to inclusively support he interests of those who want to be drivers (AKA integrated behavior), and those who want to engage in non-driver behaviors (separated or segregated), thus demonstrating that your accusations are false.

    There are plenty of ways of building awareness that don’t involve DIY street work, so being in opposition to such efforts in no way means that I’m against myriad (legal) awareness campaigns, and in fact I’m in the middle of creating training materials for state and local transportation professionals to make them aware of the needs of the full spectrum of cycling behavior. Do you like door zone bike lanes, or construction projects that exclude cyclists, or traffic signals that don’t detect bicyclists? I’m doing something to reduce and hopefully end this widespread institutional staff ignorance.

    On the subject of costs: I’ve donated many thousands of hours of time I could have spent raking in hundreds per hour as a consultant, or doing more bike riding, to educate and raise awareness of inequities, so please don’t play the “we’re doing so much at zeros cost” card with me. Because I’ve been there for at least 15 years; I’m unimpressed.

    Do you think all the knowledge I have acquired over the last decade was handed to me on a silver platter? Do you even have a clue how much time it takes to learn the laws, design standards, institutional practices and best practices for traffic cycling, develop a video technology along the way, and serve as the board member of an statewide advocacy organization and participate in various public and BAC meetings; all so I can work to improve how cities are treating cyclists? And don’t get me started about all the crap I’ve taken from those advocates (now including you) who don’t know the laws and standards or traffic cycling best practices who accuse me of all manner of evil simply because I point out inconvenient facts that don’t fit their ideology.

    I don’t understand how those of you who are outraged when motorists break laws, can then turn around and break laws yourself, and still claim any kind of moral authority. Would you be supportive of motorists, pasting signs that read something like: “Ride your bike at the road edge: It’s the law”, or painting DIY door zone bike lane stripes 10 feet from the curb to get you “out of the way”, or creating their own “Sharrows” that say “Bikes ride here” that they put right up against the edge of the road in narrow lanes (to keep you cyclists out of the way).

    It seems to me that many of you are confusing the message with the method. I made little comment about the message, because it’s the method that I find objectionable. But if you do accept such methods, then you would also have to accept messages you won’t like from other groups. This is why I object to any DIY group modifying public infrastructure.

  • Steven Solomon

    Dan your thousands of hours of “hard work” may be well intentioned but it hasn’t had any impact on the situation on the streets. After 15 years you might want to change your tune.

  • Gary K.

    @dan we already have to accept messages from other groups who post illegal super graphic led billboards with car ads liquor Ads, distractig LED animations, a trailers in the bike lane etc etc etc. Those illegal yet uber funded ad campaigns are not going away anytime soon. A few posters by a couple hundred concerned and frustrated members of the community is not something to whine about in the grand scheme of things.

  • @Steven – Really? And on what facts do you base this assessment? You can’t see all the illegal ordinances I’ve successfully opposed, or the signal detectors that actually detect bicycles in many cities, or the designs I’ve incluenced to be as best they can be for cycling, or all the cyclists I’ve helped to educate. No none of that is apparent to you, is it. The world is not as simple as you imagine it to be…

  • @Gary K. – And I also oppose those commercial abuses of public infrastructure. I find commercial advertising even mode disturbing than DIY work. I don’t pay taxes to support commercial advertising, and such advertising abuses in no way justifies DIY work. I’m used to being shot for being the messenger, so my skin is pretty thik kevlar nowadays. I don’t expect gratitude from those of you who instead piss on me for being principled and consistent and for working at the institutional level. In fact, I’d be pleasantly shocked if I wasn’t attacked by so called “bike advocates” for supporting law abiding and civil behavior by all highway users.

  • Steven Solomon

    Dan. The streets are not safe for hardcore cyclists let alone safe enough for average people to get on the streets. That’s proof that your thousands of hours of work by definition aren’t having any effect. Hit and runs are an epidemic. Speak about accomplishments when you’ve accomplished something significant or at least stop poo-pooing other peoples work. These kids are raising awareness in a different way than you could have imagined. Bravo for all your hard work there buddy there are you happy now? Leave the kids alone and let them do their thing and quit being that spoiled brat genius kid on the playground who, as studious and obiendient he was, couldn’t figure out why the other kids didn’t like him.

  • @Steven Solomon
    You don’t know my life, so please take your sick and twisted fantasies of my childhood elsewhere. Does it make you feel better to imagine me as “that spoiled brat genius kid on the playground who, as studious and obiendient he was, couldn’t figure out why the other kids didn’t like him.”?

    And why do you feel this need to make fun of me? Have you noticed that I don’t need to post hostile fantisies of your childhood to communicate about illegal DIY street work that you support? It’s not personal with me; why is it so personal with you?

    It is the lowest form of public discourse to attack people instead of discussing issues, and serves as an annoying distraction. Why do you feel the need to engage in these districtions? Could it be that you don’t have anything substantive to contribute, so all that is left for you is pathetic personal attacks? Just doing my best to describe your MO.

    Please grow up, leave the intellectual playground and learn civil adult discourse.

  • Odd. Is Steve Solomon a cycling advocate? Or a car advocate? The streets are unsafe for bicyclists, even ‘hardcore’ cyclists? I don’t get how this bikes-in-the-street-is-suicide attitude is supposed to get more people on bikes.

    You can’t build Amsterdam infrastructure over all of Los Angeles. At some point, protected bike lanes end, sharrows end, bike lane paint ends. And people have to ride on the street. The horrible, bonecrushing, bloody streets of certain death.

  • la rider

    I’ve seen lot’s of them on my ride and it seems like they are putting more up :)

    I used to think that if we let due process take its course, eventually good things would come about. Not anymore.

    I’m all for civil disobedience. Making Los Angeles safe for all bikers is taking way too long. From what I am seeing lately, there seem to be a lot of riders out there and the numbers keep growing and we will become a political force one day. Until then, reminding the local government that we exist is all we can do.

    Great job on the signs. Go team!!!

  • lordj

    @ Gutierrez
    I will start off by saying I appreciate your “legal” contributions and hope you continue to devote your time/life to such an important issue.

    But I fight daily with uneducated drivers who have no idea cyclists belong on the road. They either pass within inches or honk/curse at me. I had one driver honk and cursed me out as he passed, only to give me another verbal assault when I caught up to him at a traffic light. I responded “this is a “Bike Route” (Venice Blvd/Crenshaw), he again deride me with some more obscene comments and said bikes do not belong on the road. At which I pointed to the little green bike route sign, he had the most shocked look on his face, like he had never seen the sign before, like overnight they just appeared and then he said “you should ride more to the right”.

    Now you made the statement that “…Do you even have a clue how much time it takes to learn the laws, design standards, institutional practices..” My question would be how much time was put into the design, layout, implementation to those little green signs that no one even notices? Do you think they are working? Sometimes people theorize and study things to death and produce nothing beneficial despite their intensions. Case and point (I work in the life safety area) and according to the NFPA you are required to put a fire alarm pull station in a LOCKED riser room that no one, except the owner, has access to, tell me who is going to pull that alarm?

    In the 15 years you have been advocating for cyclists, how much progress has this city or state made on the issue? Why does it feel we are going backwards? Why are the hit and runs and aggressive motorists only becoming more common? Why has it taken so long to get the message out there? Bikes have been on the road long before the automobile was conceived. Obviously the “legal” political process is not, or not measurably, having an effect?

    How long do we have to wait for the LADOT to put an actual sharrow on the ground (correct me if I am wrong, but they have been “studying” this for like 3 years)? How many more angry motorists do I have to endure? When is the city and county bike plans going to actually make more than another dust collecting addition on the “Failed to Implement plan shelf”? What was wrong with the 1996 version? When can we stop being envious of our neighbor cities like Long Beach and Santa Monica which take cycling serious?

    After your 15 years are we better off? How much longer will it take to start making progress in the other direction?

    These are just a few of the thoughts/questions/frustrations motivating the “DIY” folks, and I am even willing to volunteer myself for these types of public awareness campaigns because I feel ignored (by politicians/local agencies) and threatened (by motorists). Sometimes the political process needs a kick in the pants to get the ball rolling. We could probably come up with a list of political changes that stemmed from “illegal” conduct, like ummm say that formation of the United States…. End of slavery… Women’s rights… Civil Rights…

  • First, let me say that personally, I am fully supportive of the DIY efforts of cyclists in L.A. If this were NYC, Long Beach, Portland, Seattle, Davis; i wouldn’t be. But, were literally getting killed out there, on the horrible, bone crushing, bloody streets of certain death and our elected leaders and government bureaucracy only seems to care when a big stink is made. If they won’t do it because it’s the right thing to do, maybe they can get shamed into it.

    That being said, attacks on Dan’s advocacy also seem off base to me. In just his time on Streetsblog we’ve covered a couple of major things he’s done and his take down of a CHP Officer’s article on how cyclists shouldn’t ride to abreast was both educational and a little hilarious.

    When I fist started writing Streetsblog in 2/2008 one of the things I decided was that I wasn’t going to pick sides in the advocacy wars against each other. That means doing my best to give fair coverage to groups that have divergent strategies and even sometimes disagree on what would be best on our streets. The BRU gets the same shake as the Transit Coalition and SoCATA. The LACBC, CICLE, Bike Writer’s Collective, Bike Working Group and Bikeside (for starters) get the same coverage. In the same vein, I want VC’s and other types of cyclists to feel they have a voice here.

    That policy has actually led me to more conflict than I thought. One prominent transit advocate told me they wouldn’t help me fundraiser because of my appearance on another group’s newsletter. One prominent bike advocate basically told me our relationship would be damaged if I kept quoting another. They both still get coverage, heck anyone reading Streetsblog might think me and person who told me off were good friends based on the coverage they receive here.

    Part of that voice is allowing anyone to say whatever they want in the comments section, short of liable. That doesn’t mean I take a dim view on others writing whatever they want. Short of liable or vulgarity I never edit a comment. I usually only weigh in when I feel a point is unclear in the story or when I feel someone is getting ganged up on that I like.

    Just because I don’t agree with Dan on this issue doesn’t mean his POV isn’t important. He’s an ally in the Livable Streets Community, and while he thinks this DIY project is counter-productive. I look forward to working with him again.

  • Variety is the spice of life.

    And effective.

    Please see: every social movement ever.

  • Well said Damien.
    If we only talk/listen to those that agree with us 100% on each and every issue, we would never get anything done and this would be a very lonely world. Each person has value and can contribute and can teach.

    See you all tomorrow at the StreetFest. Hope I can learn more from you all.

  • Hank

    Imagine if Samuel Adams had a change of heart as the Sons of Liberty rushed off to dump tea into the Boston bay… “Good sirs! you’re actions are illegal and a blight! I doth declare that we shall negotiate further with the King and alleviate ourselves of this error on the part of the good king… sirs!!”

    no.

  • Imagine if Benjamin Franklin had been shocked at the destruction of private property by the tea partiers and had insisted that there must be repayment made for the destroyed property.

    Oh. That really happened.

  • Hank

    Imagine if the Sons of Liberty would have given in and obeyed Franklin’s misguided cowardice! ooooooooooooooooooh that didn’t happen!

  • Spokker

    Actually the Boston Tea Party was a bunch of nonsense and “No taxation without representation” was propaganda. Taxes weren’t that bad under British rule, generally speaking. The British Navy kept shipping lanes free of assholes and kept France off the colonies’ asses.

    It was special interests that had a hand in spreading those messages as if they were actually grassroots movements. The average person didn’t really have anything to complain about under British rule when it came to taxes.

    The colonies were full of cowards if you think about it. After the British kicked the frogs out of North America, the colonies didn’t really need British protection anymore. So when Britain said, “Hey, we just amassed all this debt protecting your asses. You guys should pay up.” the colonies skipped out on the debt and decided to revolt.

    We revolted to escape our creditors! Hahaha.

  • Spokker

    “Imagine if the Sons of Liberty would have given in and obeyed Franklin’s misguided cowardice! ooooooooooooooooooh that didn’t happen!”

    And yet most posters here would likely put down the modern tea party movements and their followers.

    Revolt! Speak truth to power! March!

    But only if you agree with us.

  • Spokker

    http://www.cracked.com/article_18442_5-reasons-founding-fathers-were-kind-dicks.html

    This article may be on a comedy web site but it actually coincides with stuff you can learn in American history class. No, not high school history, but upper-level collegiate economic history.

    Not only were British taxes not that bad, all things considered, but the colonists hardly ever paid them anyway. Here’s what it says about the Tea Act that sparked the Boston Tea Party.

    “Just to make the colonists happy, (those sonsabitches loved their tea), Great Britain came up with the Tea Act of 1773, which would give the colonists tea that was both cheaper and better than the tea they were getting from smugglers. Still sounds reasonable. France is out of the colonists’s hair, some taxes are removed, and they get high quality tea at a cheaper cost.

    The colonists threw the tea in the water.”

    We were founded by retards.

  • I dunno how we ended up talking about the bloody Tea Party here, but Spokker, one of the reasons the colonists were pissed about the Tea Tax was because it was payable only in gold and silver. That put a serious drain on capital that was being used elsewhere in the economy. The crown could pay the colonists with her majesties coinage, but the colonists had to pay in the real deal (gold or silver). That crappy deal set the torches a-burning. I am not a historian, but that’s how I remember being told the story.

    Anyway, to get back to Dan Gutierrez – dude, I am really sorry that things descended into insults above. If it is your opinion that this effort is wrong-headed, or not the right idea, that is fine. The excitement of painting a negative picture of VC advocates got my wires crossed. Obviously I’ve got some issues with VC proponents and what I view as their strategic failures to grow a political, social, and cultural movement larger than their tight cabal of well trained buddies (that’s the way I see them more and more, though I know that is not an honest description).

    How about this: the DIY effort may well be sloppy and a sign of doing the wrong thing to fix the series of problems cyclists ace everyday with the way the road and culture are designed. However, this effort and others like it are a sign of the growing power, boldness, unity, and coordination amongst cyclists. Along with efforts like this, you will take note to see all sorts of people, groups, and organizations doing their utmost to push things forward. Don’t know it on (your) technical grounds without giving credence to the power of symbols and propaganda in people’s lives. There is a reason the communists devoted so much time and effort to film, art, theater, and hand bills. These media can have a dramatic effect on the mindset of others in society. These posters are effective (I feel) in getting across a basic message that bikes belong on the road. When viewed in this light, your technical complaints seem quite minor in importance.

  • I believe the typeface used is Franklin Gothic. It’s not the standard type used for road signs, but it’s not a bad choice as far as legibility is concerned.

    Fight from the inside, fight from the outside—I don’t really care anymore. I’m just sick of eating cake.

  • ruthie

    i love these. there’s one by my apartment on lincoln and pico.

  • la rider

    @Spokker

    Considering how much we pay today and what little we get. I’ll have to agree with you :)

    “We were founded by retards.” Awesome!!!

  • Makes me smile everytime I see one of these. I ride down York bl in highland park and also around Glendale. I have seen numerous signs posted but just wondering what kind of glue ur using. Most of these are peeling off or maybee someone is trying to remove them??. I suggest stronger glue.

  • Ki Wi

    Awesome! I want to see that happen more places! The system is often too big to play by the rules and get timely results. The only thing that I hope for is that people really consider what type of signage and markation that they are putting around, to ensure it doesn’t confuse traffic and end up hurting anyone.

  • I really like these signs – thanks.

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