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		<title>Comment on New Study Quantifies High Personal Costs of Building CA Cities for Cars by DJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, you just proved my point beautifully :)</description>
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		<title>Comment on New Study Quantifies High Personal Costs of Building CA Cities for Cars by Spokker</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/11/20/21701/comment-page-1/#comment-50781</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s what millions left behind when they fled the cities for the suburbs.&quot;

How well has that been working out? Last year they were showing a special on PBS about homeowners in Temecula and Murrieta going apeshit over gas prices and home foreclosures. One dude, a real man&#039;s man, owned a truck nearly his whole life and after 2008 the fucker was driving a Prius with three other people.

People scream, &quot;But the free market! The free market! People will live where they want!&quot; all day but you have to determine whether the free market actually was at work all these years. You know, if planning favored the suburbs, if government funding favored the suburbs, if policies favored single family homes, how free market is that? If I wanted to live in the city, but I saw that they were only investing in the suburbs and not urban areas, I&#039;m going to choose the suburbs! The decision was practically made for me!

If you had a bunch of blacks and Hispanics wanting to move to the suburbs but local governments artificially inflated the price of housing by enacting strict zoning laws and outright banning the construction of apartment units in some cases, how free market is that? If a company wants to build an apartment, why prevent them from doing so? Where&#039;s the laissez faire attitude then? 

Some people advocate pro-choice attitudes about where people can live. I&#039;d like to see it, believe me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"It's what millions left behind when they fled the cities for the suburbs."</p>
<p>How well has that been working out? Last year they were showing a special on PBS about homeowners in Temecula and Murrieta going apeshit over gas prices and home foreclosures. One dude, a real man's man, owned a truck nearly his whole life and after 2008 the fucker was driving a Prius with three other people.</p>
<p>People scream, "But the free market! The free market! People will live where they want!" all day but you have to determine whether the free market actually was at work all these years. You know, if planning favored the suburbs, if government funding favored the suburbs, if policies favored single family homes, how free market is that? If I wanted to live in the city, but I saw that they were only investing in the suburbs and not urban areas, I'm going to choose the suburbs! The decision was practically made for me!</p>
<p>If you had a bunch of blacks and Hispanics wanting to move to the suburbs but local governments artificially inflated the price of housing by enacting strict zoning laws and outright banning the construction of apartment units in some cases, how free market is that? If a company wants to build an apartment, why prevent them from doing so? Where's the laissez faire attitude then? </p>
<p>Some people advocate pro-choice attitudes about where people can live. I'd like to see it, believe me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Compromise In the Air for Downtown Connector, Expo Phase II by Spokker</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/11/20/compromise-in-the-air-for-downtown-connector-expo-phase-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-50771</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will miss that massive pedestrian bridge!

James Fujita, another railroad crossing in Tokyo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL177gDK95E&amp;feature=fvw). Three trains cross before people are able to go, haha. Only a minute delay though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will miss that massive pedestrian bridge!</p>
<p>James Fujita, another railroad crossing in Tokyo (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL177gDK95E&amp;feature=fvw)" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL177gDK95E&amp;feature=fvw)</a>. Three trains cross before people are able to go, haha. Only a minute delay though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Compromise In the Air for Downtown Connector, Expo Phase II by James Fujita</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/11/20/compromise-in-the-air-for-downtown-connector-expo-phase-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-50761</link>
		<dc:creator>James Fujita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there are at-grade crossings in &quot;Big Tokyo.&quot;   For example, here: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22038157@N05/sets/72157618807616940/

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Putting that aside, I am glad that the MTA and the Little Tokyo community were able to discuss things and come up with something that should work well.  

Honestly, I didn&#039;t see the at-grade crossing as that big of a deal, but it does look like they might be able to have the trains go underground without seriously affecting the Nikkei Center, so that&#039;s good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there are at-grade crossings in "Big Tokyo."   For example, here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/22038157@N05/sets/72157618807616940/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/22038157@N05/sets/72157618807616940/</a></p>
<p>=</p>
<p>Putting that aside, I am glad that the MTA and the Little Tokyo community were able to discuss things and come up with something that should work well.  </p>
<p>Honestly, I didn't see the at-grade crossing as that big of a deal, but it does look like they might be able to have the trains go underground without seriously affecting the Nikkei Center, so that's good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Study Quantifies High Personal Costs of Building CA Cities for Cars by John Boucher</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/11/20/21701/comment-page-1/#comment-50751</link>
		<dc:creator>John Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This revelation is absurd. If people wanted to live in small stacked boxes and spend their time being trundled around in dismal public transportation, they would. I grew up in New York and believe me, your wonderful future is my not so golden past. It&#039;s what millions left behind when they fled the cities for the suburbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This revelation is absurd. If people wanted to live in small stacked boxes and spend their time being trundled around in dismal public transportation, they would. I grew up in New York and believe me, your wonderful future is my not so golden past. It's what millions left behind when they fled the cities for the suburbs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Compromise In the Air for Downtown Connector, Expo Phase II by Dave S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just curious, any one know if there are at-grade train crossings in Big Tokyo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just curious, any one know if there are at-grade train crossings in Big Tokyo?</p>
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		<title>Comment on SCAG and City of Los Angeles Thinking About Solutions to the Last Mile Problem by Damien Newton</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/11/12/scag-and-city-of-los-angeles-thinking-about-solutions-to-the-last-mile-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-50731</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I wasn&#039;t here, and Arroyo Fest sounds awesome, I have to think that Ciclovia (or yes, a CicLAvia) is the way to go on this issue.  Once businesses see that there&#039;s a lot to be gained by having more cyclists and pedestrians on the street, the faster more people we&#039;ll have interested in &quot;Livable Streets.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I wasn't here, and Arroyo Fest sounds awesome, I have to think that Ciclovia (or yes, a CicLAvia) is the way to go on this issue.  Once businesses see that there's a lot to be gained by having more cyclists and pedestrians on the street, the faster more people we'll have interested in "Livable Streets."</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Study Quantifies High Personal Costs of Building CA Cities for Cars by DJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Provide cities and counties with an infusion of funds to engage the community in planning.&quot; 
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This gets to a core dilemma. What if the community wants to sprawl? What if they don&#039;t care about the financial and environmental costs of suburbia and driving? If you truly engage people like that in a planning process, won&#039;t you loose all of the smart growth content you&#039;re after?

It&#039;s really hard, because land use authority is local, and people, particularly homeowners, tend to vote with their feet. They move to places they like, if they have a choice. Hence, these people probably want things to stay the same way they were when they moved in.

There may be an agonizing tradeoff between wider participation and achieving cities with better environmental performance. What&#039;s more important? A good process or a good result?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Provide cities and counties with an infusion of funds to engage the community in planning."<br />
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<p>This gets to a core dilemma. What if the community wants to sprawl? What if they don't care about the financial and environmental costs of suburbia and driving? If you truly engage people like that in a planning process, won't you loose all of the smart growth content you're after?</p>
<p>It's really hard, because land use authority is local, and people, particularly homeowners, tend to vote with their feet. They move to places they like, if they have a choice. Hence, these people probably want things to stay the same way they were when they moved in.</p>
<p>There may be an agonizing tradeoff between wider participation and achieving cities with better environmental performance. What's more important? A good process or a good result?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Streets-Level Review of the Gold Line Eastside Extension by wiyum</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/11/13/a-streets-level-review-of-the-gold-line-eastside-extension/comment-page-2/#comment-50711</link>
		<dc:creator>wiyum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The intersection of Atlantic and Pomona Boulevards is not located in Monterey Park.  It is in East Los Angeles.  

I agree that the line comes close to pedestrian areas and can be overwhelming at times, but I also think that people need to be a bit more vigilant.  We have a beautiful new line.  Let&#039;s continue to improve upon it so we can continue to be proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The intersection of Atlantic and Pomona Boulevards is not located in Monterey Park.  It is in East Los Angeles.  </p>
<p>I agree that the line comes close to pedestrian areas and can be overwhelming at times, but I also think that people need to be a bit more vigilant.  We have a beautiful new line.  Let's continue to improve upon it so we can continue to be proud.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Cartoon Thursday:&#8221; Eastside Blog Punks Metro on Gold Line Safety by Damien Newton</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/cartoon-thursday-eastside-blog-punks-metro-on-gold-line-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-50701</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, Fred?

With the way my writing has been since I&#039;ve been on a baby-reduced sleeping schedule, I&#039;ve been waiting for you to point out that I should have written &quot;If Metro WERE getting calls...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, Fred?</p>
<p>With the way my writing has been since I've been on a baby-reduced sleeping schedule, I've been waiting for you to point out that I should have written "If Metro WERE getting calls..."</p>
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		<title>Comment on Today&#8217;s Headlines by Erik G.</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/11/20/21601/comment-page-1/#comment-50691</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a complete debacle and I would not be suprised if we someday find out that Burke got her house refurbishment and the Brentwood rental that got her tossed from office, paid for by Cubic.

The gates only increased revenues for the initial test BECAUSE METRO STAFFED THE GATES with either their own staff in vests, Cubic staff in vests (neither of which have any authority to check fares) and then sherrif&#039;s deputies.  I use the Wilshire/Normandie station twice daily and it was pathetic to see such a waste of law enforcement there every single day for over 30 days.

And in the meantime, I HAVE NOT BEEN CHECKED ONCE for a ticket on the Red/Purple Line ever since this asnine turnstile project started, nor have I seen law enforcement on board any trains, save for early morning/off-duty. in-uniform commuters.

I have been told I can&#039;t use the one ADA faregate though, because my &quot;bag was not big enough&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a complete debacle and I would not be suprised if we someday find out that Burke got her house refurbishment and the Brentwood rental that got her tossed from office, paid for by Cubic.</p>
<p>The gates only increased revenues for the initial test BECAUSE METRO STAFFED THE GATES with either their own staff in vests, Cubic staff in vests (neither of which have any authority to check fares) and then sherrif's deputies.  I use the Wilshire/Normandie station twice daily and it was pathetic to see such a waste of law enforcement there every single day for over 30 days.</p>
<p>And in the meantime, I HAVE NOT BEEN CHECKED ONCE for a ticket on the Red/Purple Line ever since this asnine turnstile project started, nor have I seen law enforcement on board any trains, save for early morning/off-duty. in-uniform commuters.</p>
<p>I have been told I can't use the one ADA faregate though, because my "bag was not big enough".</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Cartoon Thursday:&#8221; Eastside Blog Punks Metro on Gold Line Safety by Fred Camino, The Source</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Camino, The Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik G.-

Duly noted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik G.-</p>
<p>Duly noted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Cartoon Thursday:&#8221; Eastside Blog Punks Metro on Gold Line Safety by Erik G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred,

The Lady Metro didth protest too much.  Just state that they were not LA Metro doings, and move on.  Surely you can see why some would believe those signs.  Maybe that is what your energies need to be spent on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred,</p>
<p>The Lady Metro didth protest too much.  Just state that they were not LA Metro doings, and move on.  Surely you can see why some would believe those signs.  Maybe that is what your energies need to be spent on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Cartoon Thursday:&#8221; Eastside Blog Punks Metro on Gold Line Safety by David Galvan</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Galvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Will: I watched that video.  I think the guy could have totally de-fused the situation if he hadn&#039;t been such a jackass to the LASD officer.  Whole thing made me roll my eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Will: I watched that video.  I think the guy could have totally de-fused the situation if he hadn't been such a jackass to the LASD officer.  Whole thing made me roll my eyes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Superfund, Fault Lines, Groundwater All in the Way&#8230;Let&#8217;s Dig a Tunnel! by Adam Villani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Villani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Build it. I&#039;m a big mass transit supporter, too, but this isn&#039;t like other freeway expansion projects. This completes a gap that&#039;s caused problems for more than four decades. It&#039;s not a matter of &quot;golly, this freeway&#039;s crowded; let&#039;s make it bigger.&quot; It&#039;s a matter of improving connectivity and diverting traffic away from surface streets and downtown L.A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Build it. I'm a big mass transit supporter, too, but this isn't like other freeway expansion projects. This completes a gap that's caused problems for more than four decades. It's not a matter of "golly, this freeway's crowded; let's make it bigger." It's a matter of improving connectivity and diverting traffic away from surface streets and downtown L.A.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Cartoon Thursday:&#8221; Eastside Blog Punks Metro on Gold Line Safety by Fred Camino, The Source</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Camino, The Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*if* Metro was *actually* getting calls? I was hoping I could bring credibility amongst transit advocates to Metro. Looks like instead I&#039;ve lost any credibility I have once had! For the record, I didn&#039;t lie about Metro getting calls and emails so I could pick on a blog I read from time to time.

Just messing with you Damien. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*if* Metro was *actually* getting calls? I was hoping I could bring credibility amongst transit advocates to Metro. Looks like instead I've lost any credibility I have once had! For the record, I didn't lie about Metro getting calls and emails so I could pick on a blog I read from time to time.</p>
<p>Just messing with you Damien. ;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Help D.A. Mary Stone Keep the Road Rage Doc Behind Bars by David Pulsipher</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/help-d-a-mary-stone-keep-the-road-rage-doc-behind-bars/comment-page-1/#comment-50631</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pulsipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for this notice damien.  i wrote a letter as well.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Echo Park Community Warns Metro: Hybrid Plan for Route 2 Terminus Untested, Illegal by limit</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/11/18/echo-park-community-warns-metro-hybrid-plan-for-route-2-terminus-untested-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-50621</link>
		<dc:creator>limit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madness. If anything a gap closure should also be done to connect the 2 with the 101 as previous designed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madness. If anything a gap closure should also be done to connect the 2 with the 101 as previous designed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Superfund, Fault Lines, Groundwater All in the Way&#8230;Let&#8217;s Dig a Tunnel! by limit</title>
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		<dc:creator>limit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Multi modal  solutions are key. However, I would also like to see additional options such as a cut and cover middle ground.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Help D.A. Mary Stone Keep the Road Rage Doc Behind Bars by Digital Dame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Dame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damien, just one quick comment on your letter:

This line in the first paragraph: &quot;However, no matter how heart-rendering the story&quot;

the term is &#039;heartrending&#039;

Sorry, can&#039;t help it. I&#039;m a hell-on-wheels proofreader ;) 

Feel free to delete this comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damien, just one quick comment on your letter:</p>
<p>This line in the first paragraph: "However, no matter how heart-rendering the story"</p>
<p>the term is 'heartrending'</p>
<p>Sorry, can't help it. I'm a hell-on-wheels proofreader ;) </p>
<p>Feel free to delete this comment.</p>
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