Ride the Owls with So.CA.TA on Their Annual Day-After-Thanksgiving Tour

Traditionally Southern Caifornia Transit Advocates does a day-after-thanksgiving study tour , usually to explore service in far-flung areas outside urban Los Angeles (Santa Barbara, San Diego, Victorville, Bakersfield).

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This year we are doing something different. We are riding owl service in the L.A. area, Friday evening into Saturday morning. This is service that operates in the wee hours (midnight to 4 a.m.). We’ll also ride some service on the fringes of that period

Schedules are posted on the websites of Metro andFoothill.

The reason we are interested in owl service is at a meeting of the Metro Citizens’ Advisory Council earlier this year I learned Metro next year will be considering whether to change how it operates service overnight. Instead of having most bus lines run into downtown L.A. for the hourly “line’-up” timed connections, the agency might operate the Red Line 24 hours and have owl bus service feed into that.

This would open up possibilities versus the time constraints that currently shape how owl service is operated. It seems like a good time to start contemplating what we think the changes should be and go out to investigate the service operated now — are there gaps in service, or lines with low ridership that may not merit continuation?

Please post comments with any thoughts you have about owl service. And please note at this point running the subway overnight is just an idea Metro staff is starting to think about. Nothing at this point is set in stone.

As always anyone who wishes is welcome to ride along with us.

The itinerary was prepared by member Charles Powell.

Line 83
Hill and 7th- 912p
Hill and 1st- 1104p(after riding the T routing of the 83)

Silverline (Foothill Transit)
Hill and 1st-1108-1110(Union Station 1105)
110 and 105 Fwy Station- 1134

Greenline
105 and 110 Fwy Station-1145
Vermont Station-1147

Line 204
Vermont Greenline-1151(120th St at 1149)
Vermont Sunset-1241

Redline
Vermont Sunset-1248
7th Metro-1259

BREAK

Line 37-38-14
Grand and 7th-206a
Beverly Vermont-329

Line 10
Beverly Vermont-339
Santa Monica San Vincente- 403

Line 4
Santa Monica San Vincente-410
Downtown-445-455a

End of trip

  • Lorenzo Mutia

    That’s an interesting plan. I just wonder how frequent the Red Line would run at night. From what I can recall, even the 24hr NYC lines run at 20 minute intervals late at night.

  • Metro’s standard for rail is at least 20 minute headways. I wonder if they would go to 30 minutes in owls for the Red Line. We’ll see what is proposed.

  • Wanderer

    Philadelphia runs its subways every 20 minutes after midnight (weekends only), Chicago run its Red Line (the only 24 hour line there) every 15 minutes.

  • I belatedly realized that there is a mistake in my post. Metro operates the Silverline which I confused with Foothill’s Silver Streak.Mark Strickert and Charles Powell participated for the entire tour (which had some mid-trip tweaks due to a late Silverliner) with Perias Pillay joining us for the second half.

  • Phantom Commuter

    L.A. is not New York. The Red Line would become nothing more than a “Midnight Mission.”

  • Alex Brideau III

    I’ve always felt that it makes the most sense for Metro to run its “trunk lines” (me-speak for Metro Rail, Metro Liners, and Rapids) as owls. That way it furthers the unique functions of these lines that already have decently strong followings and pretty good travel times. (“If it’s red or rides on rails* then it runs 24/7.”)

    *Snazzy wording for Metro Liner busways still to be formulated. :-P

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