Comments on: Thoughts on the Guerrilla Sharrows in Northeast L.A. http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/ Covering Los Angeles's livable streets movement Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Keith Morris http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-320361 Keith Morris Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:51:05 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-320361 It looks rather clear that some of those sharrows are right in the door lane: better to have them centered or near the center of the lane to prevent vehicles from passing too closely. I would not depend on those and would ride in the center of the lane or if there's another street with more than one lane in each direction that would be even better. It looks rather clear that some of those sharrows are right in the door lane: better to have them centered or near the center of the lane to prevent vehicles from passing too closely. I would not depend on those and would ride in the center of the lane or if there’s another street with more than one lane in each direction that would be even better.

]]> By: WALT! http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-140201 WALT! Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:37:33 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-140201 Dig the story. 'Cept one part that reads like nails on a chalkboard to NELA-ites such as myself: "37th Street." Numbered roads south of City Hall are called "Streets" as in 1st Street, 2nd Street... North of City Hall roads with numbered designation are called AVENUES, as in Avenue 35, Avenue 36 and AVENUE 37. (no "st," "nd," "rd," or "th.") For a second there I thought I was reading about riding around USC. Dig the story. ‘Cept one part that reads like nails on a chalkboard to NELA-ites such as myself: “37th Street.”

Numbered roads south of City Hall are called “Streets” as in 1st Street, 2nd Street… North of City Hall roads with numbered designation are called AVENUES, as in Avenue 35, Avenue 36 and AVENUE 37. (no “st,” “nd,” “rd,” or “th.”)

For a second there I thought I was reading about riding around USC.

]]> By: Erik G. http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-139291 Erik G. Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:37:42 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-139291 Correct me if I am wrong but even in the safety seat/basket, doesn't little Sammy need to have a helmet on his noggin in order to comply with the laws of the City and the County of Los Angeles and/or the State of California? Correct me if I am wrong but even in the safety seat/basket, doesn’t little Sammy need to have a helmet on his noggin in order to comply with the laws of the City and the County of Los Angeles and/or the State of California?

]]> By: Damien Newton http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-139071 Damien Newton Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:18:47 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-139071 Well that explains it, Sharrows are mostly used on streets with street parking to keep the bikes out of the door zone. http://www.livablestreets.com/streetswiki/door-zone I don't think there's anything that says they can't be used (I'm checking) on streets without, but that's what I was thinking when I took a shot at them above. Well that explains it, Sharrows are mostly used on streets with street parking to keep the bikes out of the door zone. http://www.livablestreets.com/streetswiki/door-zone

I don’t think there’s anything that says they can’t be used (I’m checking) on streets without, but that’s what I was thinking when I took a shot at them above.

]]> By: Evan http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-139021 Evan Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:50:19 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-139021 That is true. It is UC property. That is true. It is UC property.

]]> By: Erik G. http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-139001 Erik G. Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:45:49 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-139001 I thought Westwood Blvd. north of LeConte is not inside the limits of the City of Los Angeles. Or at least the road corridors are not the jurisdiction of LADOT and LAPD? I thought Westwood Blvd. north of LeConte is not inside the limits of the City of Los Angeles. Or at least the road corridors are not the jurisdiction of LADOT and LAPD?

]]> By: Evan http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-138961 Evan Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:15:20 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-138961 Damien--there is no door zone, because there is no parking where the sharrows are on Westwood. And believe me--an illegally parked car would be dealt with with extreme prejudice by UCLA parking...anything for a ticket. Damien–there is no door zone, because there is no parking where the sharrows are on Westwood. And believe me–an illegally parked car would be dealt with with extreme prejudice by UCLA parking…anything for a ticket.

]]> By: Damien Newton http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-138951 Damien Newton Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:11:40 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-138951 I left that part blank to see if someone else would fill in the blank for me. They seem awfully close to the curb, i.e. in the door zone. Design manuals for Sharrows, which of course don't exist for Los Angeles, usually want the Sharrows to be 12 to 14 feet from the curb. No way is that Sharrow that far away. Dismount zone? Email me... I left that part blank to see if someone else would fill in the blank for me. They seem awfully close to the curb, i.e. in the door zone. Design manuals for Sharrows, which of course don’t exist for Los Angeles, usually want the Sharrows to be 12 to 14 feet from the curb. No way is that Sharrow that far away.

Dismount zone? Email me…

]]> By: Evan http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-138941 Evan Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:01:16 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-138941 Like Herbie, I'd also like some more clarification on the dig against the UCLA sharrows, Damien. You didn't voice any criticism against them in the post linked to. I have not had any negative experiences riding up Westwood Plaza using them. Now, about the dismount zone, which no one outside of UCLA seems to know about... Like Herbie, I’d also like some more clarification on the dig against the UCLA sharrows, Damien. You didn’t voice any criticism against them in the post linked to. I have not had any negative experiences riding up Westwood Plaza using them. Now, about the dismount zone, which no one outside of UCLA seems to know about…

]]> By: Phat_Phrank http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-138781 Phat_Phrank Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:28:54 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-138781 LADOT should leave the D.I.Y. sharrows and sanction the Dept. of D.I.Y. to allow the community to paint more. Since the sharrows are merely drawing attention to a right bicyclists already have, LADOT can save time and money by letting the community decide where sharrows are needed. Granted, this proposal is probably straitjacketed in red tape. LADOT should leave the D.I.Y. sharrows and sanction the Dept. of D.I.Y. to allow the community to paint more. Since the sharrows are merely drawing attention to a right bicyclists already have, LADOT can save time and money by letting the community decide where sharrows are needed. Granted, this proposal is probably straitjacketed in red tape.

]]> By: David Galvan http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-138041 David Galvan Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:47:36 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-138041 Great baby-bucket-bike pics, Damien! May have to look into one of those sometime this year. .. Great baby-bucket-bike pics, Damien! May have to look into one of those sometime this year. ..

]]> By: Herbie http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-138011 Herbie Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:20:22 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-138011 I'm wondering what you mean when you say that "correctly designed and placed on the road" is "more than we can say" of the Westwood sharrows. I ride those sharrows on the daily and they give me all the same feelings you describe here. They're empowering, and they're a clear statement that bikes belong. Nowhere in the city do I see more riders (appropriately) taking the (narrow) lane than when I ride the sharrows on Westwood Blvd. I like the D.I.Y. sharrows! But I also like the "legit" sharrows. What are the issues w/ the Westwood sharrows? Cause if there are issues, the Bicycle Coalition at UCLA might be able to work to fix 'em. I’m wondering what you mean when you say that “correctly designed and placed on the road” is “more than we can say” of the Westwood sharrows. I ride those sharrows on the daily and they give me all the same feelings you describe here. They’re empowering, and they’re a clear statement that bikes belong. Nowhere in the city do I see more riders (appropriately) taking the (narrow) lane than when I ride the sharrows on Westwood Blvd.

I like the D.I.Y. sharrows!

But I also like the “legit” sharrows.

What are the issues w/ the Westwood sharrows? Cause if there are issues, the Bicycle Coalition at UCLA might be able to work to fix ‘em.

]]> By: ubrayj02 http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-137891 ubrayj02 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:21:12 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-137891 Jo, you missed the link down in the article about those very same sharrows. Jo, you missed the link down in the article about those very same sharrows.

]]> By: jo http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-137771 jo Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:34:23 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-137771 Re the "only street inside of city limits with Sharrows" -- this may be incorrect, as there are painted Sharrows near UCLA, on Westwood Blvd. north of Le Conte. Re the “only street inside of city limits with Sharrows” — this may be incorrect, as there are painted Sharrows near UCLA, on Westwood Blvd. north of Le Conte.

]]> By: Damien Newton http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-137631 Damien Newton Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:55:04 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-137631 Guerilla Guerilla

]]> By: K http://la.streetsblog.org/2010/02/01/thoughts-on-the-guerillia-sharrows-in-northeast-l-a/comment-page-1/#comment-137571 K Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:12:25 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=30731#comment-137571 "Guerillia?" “Guerillia?”

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