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	<title>Comments on: The Times Looks at the State of Cycling in Los Angeles</title>
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		<title>By: danceralamode</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something else I wished they reminded motorists of: when you approach a stop sign, the law requires you to stop at the white line or stop sign, not 20 feet beyond it in the middle of the intersection. That is considered running the stop sign. (I know, back in my cager days I got a ticket for it, which I fought, since I did stop. But I digress.) I see motorists do this everyday, particularly when they approach the bike route from hell of 4th street (badly needs repaving). And I have to fear for my life and slam on my brakes when I have the right of way and they can&#039;t be bothered to stop at a stop sign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else I wished they reminded motorists of: when you approach a stop sign, the law requires you to stop at the white line or stop sign, not 20 feet beyond it in the middle of the intersection. That is considered running the stop sign. (I know, back in my cager days I got a ticket for it, which I fought, since I did stop. But I digress.) I see motorists do this everyday, particularly when they approach the bike route from hell of 4th street (badly needs repaving). And I have to fear for my life and slam on my brakes when I have the right of way and they can&#8217;t be bothered to stop at a stop sign.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rupp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rupp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments. One clarification re the left turn: as long as your front wheels have passed the FIRST limit line, you are considered to be in the intersection and you have the right of way. This means you may turn left, even after the light has changed. What IS illegal is for a driver who was behind the limit line when the light changed to &quot;piggyback&quot; the car in front of him and turn left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments. One clarification re the left turn: as long as your front wheels have passed the FIRST limit line, you are considered to be in the intersection and you have the right of way. This means you may turn left, even after the light has changed. What IS illegal is for a driver who was behind the limit line when the light changed to &#8220;piggyback&#8221; the car in front of him and turn left.</p>
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