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	<title>Comments on: Bad News from Governor, Courts on 710 Expansion Near Pasadena</title>
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		<title>By: calwatch</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/28/bad-news-from-governor-courts-on-710-expansion-near-pasadena/comment-page-1/#comment-45391</link>
		<dc:creator>calwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 710 can and should pay for itself, as a congestion priced tunnel. If trucks are banned from the tunnel, the heights can be limited to that of a standard transit bus. The same goes for the proposed Palmdale-La Crescenta tunnel. COngestion pricing the tunnel also allows the tunnel to be sized smaller, say at two or three lanes in each direction instead of four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 710 can and should pay for itself, as a congestion priced tunnel. If trucks are banned from the tunnel, the heights can be limited to that of a standard transit bus. The same goes for the proposed Palmdale-La Crescenta tunnel. COngestion pricing the tunnel also allows the tunnel to be sized smaller, say at two or three lanes in each direction instead of four.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This freeway needs to be finished already. The only reason this freeway was not completed years ago is the City of South Pasadena has money. If it were some &quot;poor&quot; city the State would have taken the land and built the freeway 50 years ago. 

Anyone who is opposed to this freeway completion should go sit in rush hour traffic sometime on Fremont Boulevard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This freeway needs to be finished already. The only reason this freeway was not completed years ago is the City of South Pasadena has money. If it were some &#8220;poor&#8221; city the State would have taken the land and built the freeway 50 years ago. </p>
<p>Anyone who is opposed to this freeway completion should go sit in rush hour traffic sometime on Fremont Boulevard.</p>
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		<title>By: limit</title>
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		<dc:creator>limit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cut and cover type gap closure. Cheaper than a tunnel with near equal impact to stakeholders. Basically, sub grade the freeway, cover it with a park (with bike lanes and overcrossings), keep city streets, historic homes relocated back to the same spot (with improved park frontage)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cut and cover type gap closure. Cheaper than a tunnel with near equal impact to stakeholders. Basically, sub grade the freeway, cover it with a park (with bike lanes and overcrossings), keep city streets, historic homes relocated back to the same spot (with improved park frontage)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: revebleu</title>
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		<dc:creator>revebleu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kill the 710 expantion and put that money towards more trains and subways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kill the 710 expantion and put that money towards more trains and subways.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that L.A.s freeway system is already saturated, one wonders how adding more possible routes will help.  It seems to me that this project is just as likely to shuffle congestion around as it is to improve the overall effectiveness of the system.  I think it would take some very sophisticated modeling to determine if this link is worthwhile, especially given its high cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that L.A.s freeway system is already saturated, one wonders how adding more possible routes will help.  It seems to me that this project is just as likely to shuffle congestion around as it is to improve the overall effectiveness of the system.  I think it would take some very sophisticated modeling to determine if this link is worthwhile, especially given its high cost.</p>
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		<title>By: JRider</title>
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		<dc:creator>JRider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The I-710 tunnel is not a bad thing.  It&#039;s a gaping hole in A SYSTEM.  For a relatively small investment on a relatively short freeway segment, we can greatly improve the usefulness of the rest of our freeway system.

Just as two connected rail lines allows for FOUR times as many trip pairs as one rail line, filling in a gap like this will have benefits far beyond the project area itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The I-710 tunnel is not a bad thing.  It&#8217;s a gaping hole in A SYSTEM.  For a relatively small investment on a relatively short freeway segment, we can greatly improve the usefulness of the rest of our freeway system.</p>
<p>Just as two connected rail lines allows for FOUR times as many trip pairs as one rail line, filling in a gap like this will have benefits far beyond the project area itself.</p>
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