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	<title>Comments on: Metro Board Passes Long Range Transportation Plan</title>
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		<title>By: calwatch</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/22/metro-passes-ammended-lrtp-details-to-come-at-this-link/comment-page-1/#comment-43711</link>
		<dc:creator>calwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the actual terms of the Breda agreement:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21544494/Bred-a-Memo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the actual terms of the Breda agreement:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/21544494/Bred-a-Memo" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/21544494/Bred-a-Memo</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting this horrible image of HUD giving money to build the stations as long as there is housing on top of them.

Wasn&quot;t there a possibility of some HSR funds for connecting services?  
Well, maybe some of that could be used to speed up the regional connector or doubletrack parts of Metrolink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting this horrible image of HUD giving money to build the stations as long as there is housing on top of them.</p>
<p>Wasn&#8221;t there a possibility of some HSR funds for connecting services?<br />
Well, maybe some of that could be used to speed up the regional connector or doubletrack parts of Metrolink</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anybody&#039;s wondering where the non-New Starts funding could come from, Ara Najarian mentioned in a speech a few weeks ago that departments like HUD (Housing and Urban Development) and the EPA could provide some of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anybody&#8217;s wondering where the non-New Starts funding could come from, Ara Najarian mentioned in a speech a few weeks ago that departments like HUD (Housing and Urban Development) and the EPA could provide some of it.</p>
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		<title>By: calwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>calwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The revised jobs estimate that Antonovich mentioned from the dais on the Breda cars was 600 new jobs created, not thousands. I don&#039;t recall if this came from a Breda document or was his estimate of how many jobs he thought would be produced, since he was conflating it with the Siemens discussion and how many people Siemens hired for their California light rail plant.

As far as the Harbor Subdivision, it is on the Strategic Plan, and was not identified as a New Starts application or as a &quot;second tier&quot; project to obtain external funding, like the Gold Line Foothill Extension or Crenshaw. This is the correct location for the project, since a commuter rail line down Slauson Avenue would make the complaints of the Expo or Eastside Gold Line communities look like peanuts. There are serious concerns about using the Harbor Subdivision for any form of medium or high speed rail service given the density, interaction with traffic, and language barriers present.

One of the least noted things, though, is how Mark Ridley Thomas snuck in a carpool lane from SR-14 all the way to Kern County on I-5. I don&#039;t know where this idea came from, but it is an incredible boondoggle. There is little to no traffic north of SR-126, and will not be for some time, even if they drop 100,000 people in Centennial like they claim. In addition, since people on I-5 are going on trips, you have a much greater concentration of &quot;carpoolers&quot; than daily commuters. This is literally the 60 mile carpool lane to nowhere.

Since someone asked, here is the text of the original Ridley Thomas motion: http://img132.yfrog.com/img132/3569/ecn.jpg and http://img33.yfrog.com/img33/8302/xs1o.jpg &quot;Regional Rationality&quot; is a classic MRT phrase. MRT is a very erudite person, but sometimes substitutes those five dollar words when something like &quot;Fairness&quot; would work just as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The revised jobs estimate that Antonovich mentioned from the dais on the Breda cars was 600 new jobs created, not thousands. I don&#8217;t recall if this came from a Breda document or was his estimate of how many jobs he thought would be produced, since he was conflating it with the Siemens discussion and how many people Siemens hired for their California light rail plant.</p>
<p>As far as the Harbor Subdivision, it is on the Strategic Plan, and was not identified as a New Starts application or as a &#8220;second tier&#8221; project to obtain external funding, like the Gold Line Foothill Extension or Crenshaw. This is the correct location for the project, since a commuter rail line down Slauson Avenue would make the complaints of the Expo or Eastside Gold Line communities look like peanuts. There are serious concerns about using the Harbor Subdivision for any form of medium or high speed rail service given the density, interaction with traffic, and language barriers present.</p>
<p>One of the least noted things, though, is how Mark Ridley Thomas snuck in a carpool lane from SR-14 all the way to Kern County on I-5. I don&#8217;t know where this idea came from, but it is an incredible boondoggle. There is little to no traffic north of SR-126, and will not be for some time, even if they drop 100,000 people in Centennial like they claim. In addition, since people on I-5 are going on trips, you have a much greater concentration of &#8220;carpoolers&#8221; than daily commuters. This is literally the 60 mile carpool lane to nowhere.</p>
<p>Since someone asked, here is the text of the original Ridley Thomas motion: <a href="http://img132.yfrog.com/img132/3569/ecn.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img132.yfrog.com/img132/3569/ecn.jpg</a> and <a href="http://img33.yfrog.com/img33/8302/xs1o.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img33.yfrog.com/img33/8302/xs1o.jpg</a> &#8220;Regional Rationality&#8221; is a classic MRT phrase. MRT is a very erudite person, but sometimes substitutes those five dollar words when something like &#8220;Fairness&#8221; would work just as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/10/22/los-angeles-has-big-transit-ambitions-but-which-project-comes-first/comment-page-1/#comment-12132

The Transport Politic, a great meaty transportation blog, has a great map as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/10/22/los-angeles-has-big-transit-ambitions-but-which-project-comes-first/comment-page-1/#comment-12132" rel="nofollow">http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/10/22/los-angeles-has-big-transit-ambitions-but-which-project-comes-first/comment-page-1/#comment-12132</a></p>
<p>The Transport Politic, a great meaty transportation blog, has a great map as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/Cqkppczlxkp2ijyrYI4qes5Po1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&amp;Expires=1256404810&amp;Signature=2y3kWOP1WAMM9Y44fNd9GiJhPkk%3D

Here is a link to an amazing map of what Los Angeles County would look like if everything in the LRTP, inlcuding the Tier 1 unfunded transit projects, were built.  I love the London style graphics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/Cqkppczlxkp2ijyrYI4qes5Po1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&#038;Expires=1256404810&#038;Signature=2y3kWOP1WAMM9Y44fNd9GiJhPkk%3D" rel="nofollow">http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/Cqkppczlxkp2ijyrYI4qes5Po1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&#038;Expires=1256404810&#038;Signature=2y3kWOP1WAMM9Y44fNd9GiJhPkk%3D</a></p>
<p>Here is a link to an amazing map of what Los Angeles County would look like if everything in the LRTP, inlcuding the Tier 1 unfunded transit projects, were built.  I love the London style graphics.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Leahy got a 1.8% discount and Breda can&#039;t get the cars to be the proper weight.  

In other words, no news :)

Seriously, thanks Calwatch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Leahy got a 1.8% discount and Breda can&#8217;t get the cars to be the proper weight.  </p>
<p>In other words, no news :)</p>
<p>Seriously, thanks Calwatch.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calwatch, Thanks.

I suppose we&#039;ll get to read the details when the negotiations are subpoenaed after the first collision, derailment or aerial structure collapse.

But they got a good deal and the cars will be built in L.A., right??

(Don&#039;t bet the farm on the &quot;built in L.A.&quot; part)


Brad,

The Harbor Subdivision does not have any improvements on it at this time, save for the bit of the Green Line down in Redondo Beach, which most would not consider to be &quot;The Westside&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calwatch, Thanks.</p>
<p>I suppose we&#8217;ll get to read the details when the negotiations are subpoenaed after the first collision, derailment or aerial structure collapse.</p>
<p>But they got a good deal and the cars will be built in L.A., right??</p>
<p>(Don&#8217;t bet the farm on the &#8220;built in L.A.&#8221; part)</p>
<p>Brad,</p>
<p>The Harbor Subdivision does not have any improvements on it at this time, save for the bit of the Green Line down in Redondo Beach, which most would not consider to be &#8220;The Westside&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the Harbor Subdivision?</description>
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		<title>By: calwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>calwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the Breda cars, Art Leahy negotiated a deal to get 2 free cars for the price of 100 in their option. Antonovich tried to get them to cancel the contract, because they could not get the cars to be below the weight limit (after all the engineering and replacement of parts, the &quot;base cars&quot; that have been delivered or are being delivered are roughly 2000 pounds overweight, down from 7000 or so pounds overweight), and so they were technically in violation of last month&#039;s Board order. Knabe said that, as long as the extra weight wouldn&#039;t cause braking problems or structural issues with the bridges, that if 2,000 was as far as they could go, it would be good enough and the order for 102 rail cars should be exercised. The board ended up going along with this, with Antonovich voting no and Dubois and Molina abstaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the Breda cars, Art Leahy negotiated a deal to get 2 free cars for the price of 100 in their option. Antonovich tried to get them to cancel the contract, because they could not get the cars to be below the weight limit (after all the engineering and replacement of parts, the &#8220;base cars&#8221; that have been delivered or are being delivered are roughly 2000 pounds overweight, down from 7000 or so pounds overweight), and so they were technically in violation of last month&#8217;s Board order. Knabe said that, as long as the extra weight wouldn&#8217;t cause braking problems or structural issues with the bridges, that if 2,000 was as far as they could go, it would be good enough and the order for 102 rail cars should be exercised. The board ended up going along with this, with Antonovich voting no and Dubois and Molina abstaining.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transportation improvements on the Westside since 1965:

The Red (now Purple) Line from Metro Center/7th to Wilshire/Western.

The Marina Freeway

One Southbound-only HOV lane on the San Diego Freeway (I-405)



Transportation Improvements in the San Gabriel Valley since 1965:

The El Monte Busway

Interstate/SR 210 (The Foothill Freeway)

The Metrolink San Bernardino Line 

The Metrolink Riverside Line 

Gold Line to Sierra Madre

State Route 57 (The Orange Freeway)

State Route 60 (The Pomona Freeway)

Interstate 605 (The San Gabriel River Freeway) from I-10 to I-210



Am I missing anything?

Are you seeing a pattern here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transportation improvements on the Westside since 1965:</p>
<p>The Red (now Purple) Line from Metro Center/7th to Wilshire/Western.</p>
<p>The Marina Freeway</p>
<p>One Southbound-only HOV lane on the San Diego Freeway (I-405)</p>
<p>Transportation Improvements in the San Gabriel Valley since 1965:</p>
<p>The El Monte Busway</p>
<p>Interstate/SR 210 (The Foothill Freeway)</p>
<p>The Metrolink San Bernardino Line </p>
<p>The Metrolink Riverside Line </p>
<p>Gold Line to Sierra Madre</p>
<p>State Route 57 (The Orange Freeway)</p>
<p>State Route 60 (The Pomona Freeway)</p>
<p>Interstate 605 (The San Gabriel River Freeway) from I-10 to I-210</p>
<p>Am I missing anything?</p>
<p>Are you seeing a pattern here?</p>
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		<title>By: Erik G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electrify the Metrolink San Bernardino Line!

Scrap the I-10 HOT lanes; Double Track Metrolink from LAUS to San Bernardino!

Increase service on the Riverside Line to hourly, and add a spur to ONT!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electrify the Metrolink San Bernardino Line!</p>
<p>Scrap the I-10 HOT lanes; Double Track Metrolink from LAUS to San Bernardino!</p>
<p>Increase service on the Riverside Line to hourly, and add a spur to ONT!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dana Gabbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana Gabbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile the business columnist at la observed sneers at the idea the subway will ever be extended.

http://www.laobserved.com/biz/2009/10/subways_well_never_s.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile the business columnist at la observed sneers at the idea the subway will ever be extended.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.laobserved.com/biz/2009/10/subways_well_never_s.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.laobserved.com/biz/2009/10/subways_well_never_s.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One correction. 

The Regional Connector and the first 3 of 5 phases of the Purple Line (to Westwood) still are the &quot;New Start&quot; applicants for federal funding.

The Gold Line and Crenshaw Line get priority over the last two phases of the westside subway for Non-&quot;New Start&quot; federal funding (e.g. Climate Change legislation).

It is a good compromise for Westside subway supporters because it still allows non-&quot;New Start&quot; Federal funds to be sought for the final two phases.  How much non-&quot;New Start&quot; Federal funding can be found for anything, if any, remains to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One correction. </p>
<p>The Regional Connector and the first 3 of 5 phases of the Purple Line (to Westwood) still are the &#8220;New Start&#8221; applicants for federal funding.</p>
<p>The Gold Line and Crenshaw Line get priority over the last two phases of the westside subway for Non-&#8221;New Start&#8221; federal funding (e.g. Climate Change legislation).</p>
<p>It is a good compromise for Westside subway supporters because it still allows non-&#8221;New Start&#8221; Federal funds to be sought for the final two phases.  How much non-&#8221;New Start&#8221; Federal funding can be found for anything, if any, remains to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damien,

Any news about our favorite Pistola-based company??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damien,</p>
<p>Any news about our favorite Pistola-based company??</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/22/metro-passes-ammended-lrtp-details-to-come-at-this-link/comment-page-1/#comment-42771</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I indeed was using old text.  Here is the highway wording now:

4.	EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL FOR FUNDING IN THE 2009 LRTP TO CLOSE THE GAP IN THE I-5 FREEWAY FROM THE I-605 TO I-710, AND REPORT BACK IN JANUARY AND QUARTERLY TO THE BOARD. STAFF SHOULD CONSULT WITH THE GATEWAY CITIES COG, THE I-5 JPA, CALTRANS AND OCTA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I indeed was using old text.  Here is the highway wording now:</p>
<p>4.	EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL FOR FUNDING IN THE 2009 LRTP TO CLOSE THE GAP IN THE I-5 FREEWAY FROM THE I-605 TO I-710, AND REPORT BACK IN JANUARY AND QUARTERLY TO THE BOARD. STAFF SHOULD CONSULT WITH THE GATEWAY CITIES COG, THE I-5 JPA, CALTRANS AND OCTA</p>
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		<title>By: Dana Gabbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana Gabbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the link via Ridley-Thomas&#039; blog to exact wording of the amendment passed:

http://ridley-thomas.lacounty.gov/PDFs/Misc/LongRangePlanAmendment102209.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link via Ridley-Thomas&#8217; blog to exact wording of the amendment passed:</p>
<p><a href="http://ridley-thomas.lacounty.gov/PDFs/Misc/LongRangePlanAmendment102209.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ridley-thomas.lacounty.gov/PDFs/Misc/LongRangePlanAmendment102209.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Damien Goodmon</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/22/metro-passes-ammended-lrtp-details-to-come-at-this-link/comment-page-1/#comment-42741</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Goodmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amendment on the board agenda is not the same as the one that passed.  Neither does Hymon&#039;s post encompass its wording verbatim.  

I&#039;m too tired and busy to scan it, but may get around to typing it.  Check out the Supervisor&#039;s blog later today I&#039;m sure it will be  up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amendment on the board agenda is not the same as the one that passed.  Neither does Hymon&#8217;s post encompass its wording verbatim.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m too tired and busy to scan it, but may get around to typing it.  Check out the Supervisor&#8217;s blog later today I&#8217;m sure it will be  up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/22/metro-passes-ammended-lrtp-details-to-come-at-this-link/comment-page-1/#comment-42731</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the SGV politicos would put half as much enthusiasm into double tracking the San Bernadino Metrolink line as the Gold Line extensions.  

Does anyone know if the Harbor Subdivision Transit Corridor is wide enough to run both heavy rail Metrolink and light rail Metrorail trains?  If Metrolink went to LAX, maybe that would get the attention of politicos on this service.  Most world class cities that have world class transportation systems have dynamic local rail and regional rail (as well as a comprehensive bus system too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the SGV politicos would put half as much enthusiasm into double tracking the San Bernadino Metrolink line as the Gold Line extensions.  </p>
<p>Does anyone know if the Harbor Subdivision Transit Corridor is wide enough to run both heavy rail Metrolink and light rail Metrorail trains?  If Metrolink went to LAX, maybe that would get the attention of politicos on this service.  Most world class cities that have world class transportation systems have dynamic local rail and regional rail (as well as a comprehensive bus system too).</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested in what the &quot;moves funds for two highway widening projects&quot; means.  Does that mean certain widening projects were de-funded? Moved around? Were rail transpo funds removed for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in what the &#8220;moves funds for two highway widening projects&#8221; means.  Does that mean certain widening projects were de-funded? Moved around? Were rail transpo funds removed for this?</p>
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