Comments on: The View from a Folding Chair http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/ Covering Los Angeles's livable streets movement Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Damien Newton http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-41141 Damien Newton Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:51:56 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-41141 And we're done. Thanks everyone for the spirited discussion! And we’re done. Thanks everyone for the spirited discussion!

]]> By: David Gow http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-41041 David Gow Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:24:45 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-41041 AGAIN with an attack on advocacy. Advocacy is not a boondoggle, you are attacking one person's expression of a viewpoint -- with which others may agree and disagree. I certainly disagree with his "mingle" view. What did you mean by "Polish PRT? " AGAIN with an attack on advocacy. Advocacy is not a boondoggle, you are attacking one person’s expression of a viewpoint — with which others may agree and disagree. I certainly disagree with his “mingle” view.

What did you mean by “Polish PRT? “

]]> By: Mike C http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-41011 Mike C Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:14:47 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-41011 Ken, do you mingle with Polish people? :-) Ken, do you mingle with Polish people? :-)

]]> By: Ken Avidor http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-41001 Ken Avidor Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:57:06 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-41001 Shut it down, but first.... Last week, Bill Mego of the Naperville Sun wrote a column titled; "Public transportation is going away in U.S." in which he said the following: <blockquote>Naperville people don't want to travel in groups or mingle with the lower classes or the homeless.</blockquote> Guess what he proposes in this week's column? Read about it here: http://prtboondoggle.blogspot.com/2009/10/columnist-napierville-illinois-needs.html Shut it down, but first….

Last week, Bill Mego of the Naperville Sun wrote a column titled; “Public transportation is going away in U.S.” in which he said the following:

Naperville people don’t want to travel in groups or mingle with the lower classes or the homeless.

Guess what he proposes in this week’s column?

Read about it here:

http://prtboondoggle.blogspot.com/2009/10/columnist-napierville-illinois-needs.html

]]> By: Mike C http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40951 Mike C Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:24:15 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40951 Correction, Spokker, my particular question (unanswered) was why he opposed Morgantown, Heathrow, and Masdar. In your defense, I'll concede that it must be hard to keep track of all the questions Avidor has evaded. ;-) (and, I repeat, I agree with closing - all the rational arguments have already been made by us "PRT guys", and true to form, Avidor has responded with links to his silly irrelevant videos. Nothing more to be said here.) (Though, Spokker, my offer remains open: feel free to email me if you'd like to continue the discussion rationally. I was a former PRT skeptic myself once, so I understand your position even if I don't agree). Correction, Spokker, my particular question (unanswered) was why he opposed Morgantown, Heathrow, and Masdar. In your defense, I’ll concede that it must be hard to keep track of all the questions Avidor has evaded. ;-)

(and, I repeat, I agree with closing – all the rational arguments have already been made by us “PRT guys”, and true to form, Avidor has responded with links to his silly irrelevant videos. Nothing more to be said here.)

(Though, Spokker, my offer remains open: feel free to email me if you’d like to continue the discussion rationally. I was a former PRT skeptic myself once, so I understand your position even if I don’t agree).

]]> By: Spokker http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40861 Spokker Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:58:23 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40861 Mike C, he means that Polish people are dumb! Call him a racist or whatever and get on with your life. Mike C, he means that Polish people are dumb! Call him a racist or whatever and get on with your life.

]]> By: David Gow http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40851 David Gow Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:58:08 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40851 For the love of god, PLEASE close it down. For the love of god, PLEASE close it down.

]]> By: Joe Linton http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40841 Joe Linton Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:46:29 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40841 Maybe you can let them post away ad infinitum... but just somehow drop it from the RSS for LA StreetsBlog comments? Maybe you can let them post away ad infinitum… but just somehow drop it from the RSS for LA StreetsBlog comments?

]]> By: Mike C http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40831 Mike C Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:34:22 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40831 No objection here. We've been asking Avidor these simple questions for years now, and in all that time he's never given us an answer; there's no reason to believe that will change on this thread. :-) Close away! No objection here. We’ve been asking Avidor these simple questions for years now, and in all that time he’s never given us an answer; there’s no reason to believe that will change on this thread. :-)

Close away!

]]> By: Damien Newton http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40821 Damien Newton Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:01:54 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40821 As much as I love a flame war between a couple people that seem to know each other personally, I'm thinking of closing comments on this thread. Objections? As much as I love a flame war between a couple people that seem to know each other personally, I’m thinking of closing comments on this thread. Objections?

]]> By: Ken Avidor http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40701 Ken Avidor Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:00:12 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40701 Here's yours: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI Here’s yours:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI

]]> By: David Gow http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40651 David Gow Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:52:40 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40651 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA43ETEU1Vg" rel="nofollow">I found your theme song</a>. I found your theme song.

]]> By: Ken Avidor http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40641 Ken Avidor Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:48:23 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40641 Y'know Mr. Gow, I was just listening to that old Supremes song....y'know this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTs3Qy2jO0c Nice song... Y’know Mr. Gow, I was just listening to that old Supremes song….y’know this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTs3Qy2jO0c

Nice song…

]]> By: David Gow http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40581 David Gow Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:23:54 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40581 What did you mean by "Polish PRT? " What did you mean by “Polish PRT? “

]]> By: Ken Avidor http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40571 Ken Avidor Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:16:40 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40571 Very funny, Mr. Gow: http://innovative-transit.blogspot.com/2009/10/shiny-prt.html Very funny, Mr. Gow:

http://innovative-transit.blogspot.com/2009/10/shiny-prt.html

]]> By: David Gow http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40491 David Gow Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:17:06 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40491 Awright, Ken! We have another fan. Mike and I will share credit for the "greatest" part, you can have "stupidest" all to yourself. Awright, Ken! We have another fan.

Mike and I will share credit for the “greatest” part, you can have “stupidest” all to yourself.

]]> By: Spokker http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40481 Spokker Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:11:18 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40481 This is the greatest, stupidest argument ever. I love it. This is the greatest, stupidest argument ever. I love it.

]]> By: David Gow http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40471 David Gow Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:06:57 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40471 Ken: No comments @46 about bulldozing, snow, or Trevor Smallwood OBE? Then let's go back to @35. If the lack of posters on a couple of pro-PRT sites proves no interest in PRT, then there should be an inverse relationship with the number of people like you -- there should be a huge number of <i>activists against PRT.</i> If you're right about PRT, there should be a ton of blogs (other than the ones you started) and discussion boards <b>devoted to</b> PRT opposition. You've had years <a href="http://innovative-transit.blogspot.com/2008/08/fibbers-latest-fibs.html" rel="nofollow">since you learned about PRT</a> to build your army of followers. Where are they, Ken? Where are your fellow anti-PRTeabaggers? Besides <a href="http://innovative-transit.blogspot.com/2006/07/maybe-one-of-them-wears-glasses.html" rel="nofollow">Ned Luddington</a>. There also should be tons of people supporting you on your blogs -- oh, but you forbid comments. Because then Atren and I could comment, and people would wonder why you evade questions like @35 and @36. Face it Ken, Steve Raney was right: "The ratio of ardent PRT lovers to haters is approximately 100:4" There's you; Vukan; the guy who thinks PRT is an airport luggage system. Plus 1.0 FTE writer made up of Joshua Frank, Troy Pieper, and the guys who wrote most of the Light Rail Now paper. Ken: No comments @46 about bulldozing, snow, or Trevor Smallwood OBE?

Then let’s go back to @35. If the lack of posters on a couple of pro-PRT sites proves no interest in PRT, then there should be an inverse relationship with the number of people like you — there should be a huge number of activists against PRT. If you’re right about PRT, there should be a ton of blogs (other than the ones you started) and discussion boards devoted to PRT opposition. You’ve had years since you learned about PRT to build your army of followers.

Where are they, Ken? Where are your fellow anti-PRTeabaggers? Besides Ned Luddington.

There also should be tons of people supporting you on your blogs — oh, but you forbid comments. Because then Atren and I could comment, and people would wonder why you evade questions like @35 and @36.

Face it Ken, Steve Raney was right: “The ratio of ardent PRT lovers to haters is approximately 100:4″ There’s you; Vukan; the guy who thinks PRT is an airport luggage system. Plus 1.0 FTE writer made up of Joshua Frank, Troy Pieper, and the guys who wrote most of the Light Rail Now paper.

]]> By: Mike C http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40461 Mike C Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:37:34 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40461 Ken, stop evading my questions. Ken, stop evading my questions.

]]> By: David Gow http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/the-view-from-a-folding-chair/comment-page-2/#comment-40451 David Gow Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:25:09 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=15331#comment-40451 @51: Which has zero to do with Daventry. Are you implying space travel "is a joke"? With a "controversial history stretching back over thirty years"? What did you mean by "Polish PRT? " @51: Which has zero to do with Daventry. Are you implying space travel “is a joke”? With a “controversial history stretching back over thirty years”?

What did you mean by “Polish PRT? “

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