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	<title>Comments on: Unanimous BAC Votes for More Time to Review Draft Bike Plan</title>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>totally over that fact that there is one woman on this panel. Tired of this being a male dominated conversation.</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Weiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Immediately after reading Ted&#039;s observation that &quot;Enci pointed out that no woman would feel comfortable leaving her bike [outside the new LAPD headquarters], especially after dark&quot; and &quot;Ramona Marks, the panel&#039;s newest member [is] currently, the only woman on the panel&quot; a fellow rider sent me an article from Scientific American entitled, &quot;How to Get More Bicyclists on the Road, To boost urban bicycling, figure out what women want&quot;  (http://tinyurl.com/kpmzdt)

It is a must read -- hopefully one of LA&#039;s great bike bloggers will pick up on it.  The article opened my eyes, although it states the obvious.  (Some brief quotes below.)  I will try to be even more sensitive to the women&#039;s point of view whether hear it on the BAC (Ramona Marks) or from BAC speakers or I read it in a blog (e.g., Bike Girl LA, Green LA Girl, Enci&#039;s post &quot;A Woman’s Comfort on Our Streets&quot; on this site).

I did not read that the Draft Bike Plan considered women in particular.  It should.

Now some quotes from the Scientific American: 

An emerging body of research suggests that a superior strategy to increase pedal pushing could be had by asking the perennial question: What do women want?

“Despite our hope that gender roles don’t exist, they still do,” says Jennifer Dill, a transportation and planning researcher at Portland State University. Addressing women’s concerns about safety and utility “will go a long way” toward increasing the number of people on two wheels, Dill explains.

So far few cities have taken on the challenge. In the U.S., most cycling facilities consist of on-street bike lanes, which require riding in vehicle-clogged traffic, notes John Pucher, a professor of urban planning at Rutgers University and longtime bike scholar. And when cities do install traffic-protected off-street bike paths, they are almost always along rivers and parks rather than along routes leading “to the supermarket, the school, the day care center,” Pucher says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Immediately after reading Ted&#8217;s observation that &#8220;Enci pointed out that no woman would feel comfortable leaving her bike [outside the new LAPD headquarters], especially after dark&#8221; and &#8220;Ramona Marks, the panel&#8217;s newest member [is] currently, the only woman on the panel&#8221; a fellow rider sent me an article from Scientific American entitled, &#8220;How to Get More Bicyclists on the Road, To boost urban bicycling, figure out what women want&#8221;  (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/kpmzdt" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/kpmzdt</a>)</p>
<p>It is a must read &#8212; hopefully one of LA&#8217;s great bike bloggers will pick up on it.  The article opened my eyes, although it states the obvious.  (Some brief quotes below.)  I will try to be even more sensitive to the women&#8217;s point of view whether hear it on the BAC (Ramona Marks) or from BAC speakers or I read it in a blog (e.g., Bike Girl LA, Green LA Girl, Enci&#8217;s post &#8220;A Woman’s Comfort on Our Streets&#8221; on this site).</p>
<p>I did not read that the Draft Bike Plan considered women in particular.  It should.</p>
<p>Now some quotes from the Scientific American: </p>
<p>An emerging body of research suggests that a superior strategy to increase pedal pushing could be had by asking the perennial question: What do women want?</p>
<p>“Despite our hope that gender roles don’t exist, they still do,” says Jennifer Dill, a transportation and planning researcher at Portland State University. Addressing women’s concerns about safety and utility “will go a long way” toward increasing the number of people on two wheels, Dill explains.</p>
<p>So far few cities have taken on the challenge. In the U.S., most cycling facilities consist of on-street bike lanes, which require riding in vehicle-clogged traffic, notes John Pucher, a professor of urban planning at Rutgers University and longtime bike scholar. And when cities do install traffic-protected off-street bike paths, they are almost always along rivers and parks rather than along routes leading “to the supermarket, the school, the day care center,” Pucher says.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pulsipher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Pulsipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m curious as to why bike parking at lapd hq is such a hot button issue.  do people really plan on making lots of bike trips there? or is it the issue of a city building, not providing adequate bicycling facilities in general?

cause if its the former i don&#039;t get it, the latter, i do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m curious as to why bike parking at lapd hq is such a hot button issue.  do people really plan on making lots of bike trips there? or is it the issue of a city building, not providing adequate bicycling facilities in general?</p>
<p>cause if its the former i don&#8217;t get it, the latter, i do.</p>
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		<title>By: ubrayj02</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubrayj02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I arrived right when it was all concluding (approximately on time!). I got a fun tour of the inadequacies of the LAPD HQ&#039;s bike parking problems after the meeting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-caUzux4D4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I arrived right when it was all concluding (approximately on time!). I got a fun tour of the inadequacies of the LAPD HQ&#8217;s bike parking problems after the meeting:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-caUzux4D4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-caUzux4D4</a></p>
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