Comments on: Who Teaches the Teachers? http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/08/05/who-teaches-the-teachers/ Covering Los Angeles's livable streets movement Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:03:55 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Tony http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/08/05/who-teaches-the-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-52911 Tony Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:36:19 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=6321#comment-52911 Was the driving instructor's left turn from one one-way street to another? Because that is in fact legal. It's taught as as uncommonly cycling laws. http://www.cal-driver-ed.com/dmv-handbook/21.htm Was the driving instructor's left turn from one one-way street to another? Because that is in fact legal. It's taught as as uncommonly cycling laws.

http://www.cal-driver-ed.com/dmv-handbook/21.htm

]]> By: Enci http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/08/05/who-teaches-the-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-19841 Enci Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:26:37 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=6321#comment-19841 Great write-up, Damien! I'm always amazed how badly the BID and the LAPD ride. On the sidewalk, in the gutter, weaving in and out, etc. If the PD is to protect people on the street, they need to enforce the law. If they are afraid of traffic, then they should slow it down for everybody's sake. The city acts so helpless with speeding motorists, as if it wasn't up to them to say "Hey, you can't make up your own rules. You have to be responsible and if you can't be then we're going to take your license away." Every other city does it. If I drive through Glendale, I know that I will be pulled over for not signaling or for looking the wrong way. They have cops watching for your every move. That's what we need everywhere. Watching and ticketing. I guarantee that every driver will slow down then and remember all those rules. Btw. today I was riding in Hollywood, and two guys in a minivan harassed another cyclists and threw something at him. It makes me sick that that kind of behavior is tolerated on LA streets! Great write-up, Damien! I'm always amazed how badly the BID and the LAPD ride. On the sidewalk, in the gutter, weaving in and out, etc.

If the PD is to protect people on the street, they need to enforce the law. If they are afraid of traffic, then they should slow it down for everybody's sake.

The city acts so helpless with speeding motorists, as if it wasn't up to them to say "Hey, you can't make up your own rules. You have to be responsible and if you can't be then we're going to take your license away."

Every other city does it. If I drive through Glendale, I know that I will be pulled over for not signaling or for looking the wrong way. They have cops watching for your every move. That's what we need everywhere. Watching and ticketing. I guarantee that every driver will slow down then and remember all those rules.

Btw. today I was riding in Hollywood, and two guys in a minivan harassed another cyclists and threw something at him. It makes me sick that that kind of behavior is tolerated on LA streets!

]]> By: dudeonabike http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/08/05/who-teaches-the-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-19611 dudeonabike Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:16:46 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=6321#comment-19611 Beautifully said, Mr. Galvan. There is nothing more to add to that perfectly eloquent and educational post on the topic. Seriously. Beautifully said, Mr. Galvan. There is nothing more to add to that perfectly eloquent and educational post on the topic. Seriously.

]]> By: David Galvan http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/08/05/who-teaches-the-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-19491 David Galvan Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:26:57 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=6321#comment-19491 I think the idea is that, when waiting at a stop light, the cyclist should position himself such that motorists who want to turn right during the red light are able to. This means positioning yourself far enough to the left that cars can get by you on the right. Depending on the street width, I've found I can usually do this in such a way that the cars going straight can easily pass me when the light turns green, though that's not always the case, in which case you just have to take the lane. I think the idea is that, when waiting at a stop light, the cyclist should position himself such that motorists who want to turn right during the red light are able to. This means positioning yourself far enough to the left that cars can get by you on the right. Depending on the street width, I've found I can usually do this in such a way that the cars going straight can easily pass me when the light turns green, though that's not always the case, in which case you just have to take the lane.

]]> By: Damien Newton http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/08/05/who-teaches-the-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-19441 Damien Newton Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:41:44 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=6321#comment-19441 MTS, what do you do once you cross the street? MTS, what do you do once you cross the street?

]]> By: MTS http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/08/05/who-teaches-the-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-19421 MTS Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:25:03 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=6321#comment-19421 Um, crossing the street in the right-turn lane is just fine for a cyclist since that is often the only space for the bike. The other alternative, riding in the lane to its left, is not always the safest choice. Um, crossing the street in the right-turn lane is just fine for a cyclist since that is often the only space for the bike. The other alternative, riding in the lane to its left, is not always the safest choice.

]]> By: Spokker http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/08/05/who-teaches-the-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-19411 Spokker Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:58:38 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=6321#comment-19411 I was reading the California Drivers Handbook the other day and cyclists and pedestrians are mentioned all the time. Every other sentence is "Watch for cyclists." I have a feeling most drivers don't even read the goddamn thing or else they'd might be more aware of cyclists and their rights. But then again I saw a cyclist slam on his brakes to avoid hitting a pedestrian crossing the street at a crosswalk along Wilshire Blvd. the other day (he failed to stop before the crosswalk), so it seems like everybody is screwing up out there. I was reading the California Drivers Handbook the other day and cyclists and pedestrians are mentioned all the time. Every other sentence is "Watch for cyclists." I have a feeling most drivers don't even read the goddamn thing or else they'd might be more aware of cyclists and their rights.

But then again I saw a cyclist slam on his brakes to avoid hitting a pedestrian crossing the street at a crosswalk along Wilshire Blvd. the other day (he failed to stop before the crosswalk), so it seems like everybody is screwing up out there.

]]> By: joe http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/08/05/who-teaches-the-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-19321 joe Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:14:27 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=6321#comment-19321 My favorite thing I see is Beverly Hills Police on bikes riding on sidewalks, crossing at crosswalks. Doing all they can to stay out of the street. My favorite thing I see is Beverly Hills Police on bikes riding on sidewalks, crossing at crosswalks. Doing all they can to stay out of the street.

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