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	<title>Comments on: Announcing the &#8220;Parking Day Ride&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-22071</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never driven my car to Downtown Los Angeles or Hollywood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never driven my car to Downtown Los Angeles or Hollywood.</p>
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		<title>By: Park Czar</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-22031</link>
		<dc:creator>Park Czar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spokker, 


I work downtown and I participate every year.  I do take the day off and coincidentally my employer is perfectly fine with it.  I dont consider LA my personal playground but rather everywhere I go is my personal pocket park.  Feel free to come down to the East Hollywood Park[ing] Day establishment on September 18th and enjoy a day in my pocket park... of course I wouldnt want you to lose your parking space by coming down to EHo and then spoiling everybodys fun with your upside down smiley face.    

Park Czar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spokker, </p>
<p>I work downtown and I participate every year.  I do take the day off and coincidentally my employer is perfectly fine with it.  I dont consider LA my personal playground but rather everywhere I go is my personal pocket park.  Feel free to come down to the East Hollywood Park[ing] Day establishment on September 18th and enjoy a day in my pocket park&#8230; of course I wouldnt want you to lose your parking space by coming down to EHo and then spoiling everybodys fun with your upside down smiley face.    </p>
<p>Park Czar</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-16941</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@S&#039;s: &quot;Maybe when people who own cars pretend to be victimized by society and go and park in bike lanes...&quot;

hmmm... people already park their cars frequently in bike lanes (the few that we actually have around here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@S&#8217;s: &#8220;Maybe when people who own cars pretend to be victimized by society and go and park in bike lanes&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>hmmm&#8230; people already park their cars frequently in bike lanes (the few that we actually have around here)</p>
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		<title>By: David Galvan</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-16561</link>
		<dc:creator>David Galvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang Spokker.  Calm down.  If people pay for the use of the parking spot they should be able to do whatever they want on it.  This an event to raise awareness.  It&#039;s harmless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang Spokker.  Calm down.  If people pay for the use of the parking spot they should be able to do whatever they want on it.  This an event to raise awareness.  It&#8217;s harmless.</p>
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		<title>By: Anduhrew</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-16521</link>
		<dc:creator>Anduhrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ pretentious comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ pretentious comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anduhrew</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-16251</link>
		<dc:creator>Anduhrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by architects you mean both building and landscape right?
I think i&#039;ll go on that ride this year. I&#039;ve done a spot at cal poly the past two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by architects you mean both building and landscape right?<br />
I think i&#8217;ll go on that ride this year. I&#8217;ve done a spot at cal poly the past two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-16191</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On top of that, a lot of people just take the day off.&quot;

I hope whatever companies those people work for remember that they took the day off in the midst of a horrible recession to go play in the street and let them go when the next round of lay offs start. Then they&#039;ll realize LA isn&#039;t their fucking personal playground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On top of that, a lot of people just take the day off.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope whatever companies those people work for remember that they took the day off in the midst of a horrible recession to go play in the street and let them go when the next round of lay offs start. Then they&#8217;ll realize LA isn&#8217;t their fucking personal playground.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-16181</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;enjoy demonstrating joy in public spaces (for example: bicycling,)&quot;

I know you don&#039;t think there&#039;s any joy in driving, but not everyone has the same insane world view you do. You have some big fucking balls to impose your world view on others with this ridiculous event.

Go through the proper channels and get more space allocated to bikes, parks, pedestrians amenities or whatever. I&#039;ll support it. But fuck off with this Park[ing] Day bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;enjoy demonstrating joy in public spaces (for example: bicycling,)&#8221;</p>
<p>I know you don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any joy in driving, but not everyone has the same insane world view you do. You have some big fucking balls to impose your world view on others with this ridiculous event.</p>
<p>Go through the proper channels and get more space allocated to bikes, parks, pedestrians amenities or whatever. I&#8217;ll support it. But fuck off with this Park[ing] Day bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect the people who work in Downtown LA a lot more than anyone who uses their Friday to inconvenience people who are just trying to make a living, whether or not they use a car to make that living.

Someone on CurbedLA had a funny comment. He said, &quot;Am I the last one who works on a Friday in Downtown LA?&quot; Christ, didn&#039;t your mother ever tell you not to play in the street?

&quot;and I don&#039;t expect to stop demonstrating this if Los Angeles builds zillions of parks, creates complete streets, and does away with its excesses in space allocated to parking.&quot;

Maybe when people who own cars pretend to be victimized by society and go and park in bike lanes will you realize how retarded this event is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect the people who work in Downtown LA a lot more than anyone who uses their Friday to inconvenience people who are just trying to make a living, whether or not they use a car to make that living.</p>
<p>Someone on CurbedLA had a funny comment. He said, &#8220;Am I the last one who works on a Friday in Downtown LA?&#8221; Christ, didn&#8217;t your mother ever tell you not to play in the street?</p>
<p>&#8220;and I don&#8217;t expect to stop demonstrating this if Los Angeles builds zillions of parks, creates complete streets, and does away with its excesses in space allocated to parking.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe when people who own cars pretend to be victimized by society and go and park in bike lanes will you realize how retarded this event is.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-16091</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more answers for spokker:

1) Yes, lots of people park at these mini-parks. They just sit down, parking themselves in the benches and chairs newly arrived in the space. 

You asked if &quot;anyone&quot; just parks... did you mean to ask if people park their bikes or cars at these parks? They generally won&#039;t park their bikes in the space itself, because it&#039;s small... so they park them alongside it, often at the parking meter. (It&#039;s a really interesting and common metonym that people confuse their cars with them - &quot;he hit me&quot; instead of &quot;his car hit my car&quot;)

2) Yes, the parks pay the meters. Renting a parking space is so much cheaper than any other real estate rental locally. It&#039;s a tremendous bargain!

3) Yes, we all have jobs as far as I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more answers for spokker:</p>
<p>1) Yes, lots of people park at these mini-parks. They just sit down, parking themselves in the benches and chairs newly arrived in the space. </p>
<p>You asked if &#8220;anyone&#8221; just parks&#8230; did you mean to ask if people park their bikes or cars at these parks? They generally won&#8217;t park their bikes in the space itself, because it&#8217;s small&#8230; so they park them alongside it, often at the parking meter. (It&#8217;s a really interesting and common metonym that people confuse their cars with them &#8211; &#8220;he hit me&#8221; instead of &#8220;his car hit my car&#8221;)</p>
<p>2) Yes, the parks pay the meters. Renting a parking space is so much cheaper than any other real estate rental locally. It&#8217;s a tremendous bargain!</p>
<p>3) Yes, we all have jobs as far as I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-16061</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@spokker: Will these &quot;demonstrations&quot; stop?

I would definitely call parking day a &quot;demonstration&quot; and not a &quot;protest.&quot; It demonstrates one way of using public space. As far as what issues these demonstrations might help people to consider, your comment doesn&#039;t indicate to me that you quite &quot;get it&quot; as you say. I would suggest that it&#039;s not just about parks... it&#039;s also about streets and about parking. I enjoy demonstrating joy in public spaces (for example: bicycling,) and I don&#039;t expect to stop demonstrating this if Los Angeles builds zillions of parks, creates complete streets, and does away with its excesses in space allocated to parking.

Here&#039;s my favorite Park(ing) Day L.A. video about a recent Team Pedal Power park that a few of us put together and really enjoyed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3nay6sGM4E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@spokker: Will these &#8220;demonstrations&#8221; stop?</p>
<p>I would definitely call parking day a &#8220;demonstration&#8221; and not a &#8220;protest.&#8221; It demonstrates one way of using public space. As far as what issues these demonstrations might help people to consider, your comment doesn&#8217;t indicate to me that you quite &#8220;get it&#8221; as you say. I would suggest that it&#8217;s not just about parks&#8230; it&#8217;s also about streets and about parking. I enjoy demonstrating joy in public spaces (for example: bicycling,) and I don&#8217;t expect to stop demonstrating this if Los Angeles builds zillions of parks, creates complete streets, and does away with its excesses in space allocated to parking.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my favorite Park(ing) Day L.A. video about a recent Team Pedal Power park that a few of us put together and really enjoyed:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3nay6sGM4E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3nay6sGM4E</a></p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) In most cases, the meter is fed all day.  Sometimes by the people who&#039;s park it is.  Sometimes they ask for donations.  When I went around last year I had a roll of quarters and dropped one in every meter that needed it.

2) Many of the meters are done by companies and firms as a way of showing support, doing something fun for their employees and advertising.  The latter is true especially in the case of architecture firms.

Sometimes the spaces are just up for a couple of hours.  Last year I ran into two ladies who just spread out a blanket and a couple of pots on their lunch hour and set up a sign.  They&#039;re as much a part of Park(ing) Day as any of the big displays.

And of course LA has a large freelance community.  On top of that, a lot of people just take the day off.

3) It varies.  I saw plenty of bikes, some transit, and yes people using freight trucks to move stuff.  I know a consortium of companies that rented plants had all of them picked up and dropped off by the same company so that the vmt was kept to a minimum.

4) I can&#039;t speak for anyone else.  But I would be thrilled if Streetsblog became a &quot;good news&quot; blog similar to the one in NY.  My readership might go down, but I much prefer victory laps to rolling the stone uphill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) In most cases, the meter is fed all day.  Sometimes by the people who&#8217;s park it is.  Sometimes they ask for donations.  When I went around last year I had a roll of quarters and dropped one in every meter that needed it.</p>
<p>2) Many of the meters are done by companies and firms as a way of showing support, doing something fun for their employees and advertising.  The latter is true especially in the case of architecture firms.</p>
<p>Sometimes the spaces are just up for a couple of hours.  Last year I ran into two ladies who just spread out a blanket and a couple of pots on their lunch hour and set up a sign.  They&#8217;re as much a part of Park(ing) Day as any of the big displays.</p>
<p>And of course LA has a large freelance community.  On top of that, a lot of people just take the day off.</p>
<p>3) It varies.  I saw plenty of bikes, some transit, and yes people using freight trucks to move stuff.  I know a consortium of companies that rented plants had all of them picked up and dropped off by the same company so that the vmt was kept to a minimum.</p>
<p>4) I can&#8217;t speak for anyone else.  But I would be thrilled if Streetsblog became a &#8220;good news&#8221; blog similar to the one in NY.  My readership might go down, but I much prefer victory laps to rolling the stone uphill.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/07/27/announcing-the-parking-day-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-15921</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more question. Let&#039;s say the goals are met. Acres of park land 1000 residents or whatever metric is being used rises and blacks and Latinos have the same amount access to parks as whites. Will these demonstrations stop, or are people in it for the attention? Are they in it because protest is fun? 

I mean, I get what the message is, and it&#039;s an admirable one. I love parks too. But I often wonder if participants get lost in the culture of advocacy. Once the world fits your utopian vision, what else is left for you to do? For some, it may be in their best interest for nothing to get fixed because this is their only creative outlet in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more question. Let&#8217;s say the goals are met. Acres of park land 1000 residents or whatever metric is being used rises and blacks and Latinos have the same amount access to parks as whites. Will these demonstrations stop, or are people in it for the attention? Are they in it because protest is fun? </p>
<p>I mean, I get what the message is, and it&#8217;s an admirable one. I love parks too. But I often wonder if participants get lost in the culture of advocacy. Once the world fits your utopian vision, what else is left for you to do? For some, it may be in their best interest for nothing to get fixed because this is their only creative outlet in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do any of the participants use a car to drop all their shit off at the parking spot? Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do any of the participants use a car to drop all their shit off at the parking spot? Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When this event happens does anyone ever just park over the crap you put on the ground? 

Do the participants feed the meters?

Do any of these people have jobs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When this event happens does anyone ever just park over the crap you put on the ground? </p>
<p>Do the participants feed the meters?</p>
<p>Do any of these people have jobs?</p>
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