Comments on: Hummer Hits Bike, LAPD and City Attorney Worry About Hummer

By: Ed

Ed — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:36:38 +0000

Ummm, hi y’all, this is Ed!

I just came to say that you people can suck a bunch of eggs. Cars rule, cyclists drool!

Westside!

By: roadblock

roadblock — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:10:12 +0000

sarcasm indeed. Ed. you need to get informed. the people who called the cops were the cyclists NOT the party goers in the Hummer. that should tell you something. the hummer was stopped by a cop after he was spotted with a bike under his car.

By: Nate

Nate — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:27:42 +0000

New Jersey Transit gets it: http://www.nj.gov/transportation/works/njfit/toolbox/

By: SoapBoxLA

SoapBoxLA — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:10:30 +0000

Ed says “Be a good witness.”

Ahahahahahaha!

Not. Gonna. Happen!

By: Damien Newton

Damien Newton — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:23:25 +0000

I guess if you were unfamiliar with the story, you could miss the sarcasm at the top of the post. I apologize for any confusion, but that being said the rest of the story makes the point pretty clear.

The hero of this story is clearly Tena, a young man burdened with physical and mental wounds from the crash who still bears no ill will towards the driver or LAPD.

By: ubrayj02

ubrayj02 — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:19:55 +0000

Ed,

Kudos on your second effort – much better! I should note, to Gary, that many of these young toughs and malcontents on bicycles carry on their persons numerous tattoos and other indica that signal their membership of a tribal, savage, subculture. These folks are dangerous! They gathered around a car trying to flee the scene of a crime and wanted the driver to wait (!) until police arrived! There is nothing more dangerous to our economy than a car driver inconvenienced.

By: Gary Kavanagh

Gary Kavanagh — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:44:38 +0000

Ed,

What the hell are you talking about. A hummer, with no plates, hits a cyclists and tries to flee so other cyclists block the vehicle, how is this acting like savages? What is savage is the 40,000 Americans killed by automobiles on our roads in this country every year, that is what is truly savage. I could go on but I don’t want to waste too much time with you, who are obviously the TROLL as you put it.

By: Ed

Ed — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:26:17 +0000

Umberto Brayj and roadblock, you two TROLLS are demostratably, obtuse dolts. It doesn’t matter if the Hummer driver was alone, you don’t act like a SAVAGE, period! Now if the hummer driver slammed on his brakes and meant to harm the cyclists, then remain civilised and be a good witness. But that’s not what happened, our fellow “cyclists” acted like a bunch of bullies, and they got checked. Suck it up and ride on, malcontents. Maybe you two bed-wetters should get your mugs out of each others laps and back into reality. Rinse, wash and repeat.

I will agree with some of the others, in that Los Angeles and the City government is absolutly inept and not for the cyclists bill of rights, nor anything to do with producing more bike lanes. And that is pretty clear by the lack of action in getting the bike lanes panted and secure.

By: Erik G.

Erik G. — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:00:57 +0000

Must move more cars…Cars are more important than anything else…Cars are always right, never wrong…Cars pay the gas tax and the parking fees that pay for the LADOT…Must move more cars…

By: roadblock

roadblock — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:17:34 +0000

Ed. you idiot. there was no family in the Hummer. That writing was parody. It was a bunch of people coming out of a club in DTLA from partying at 1am or so.

By: roadblock

roadblock — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:15:07 +0000

Ubrayj your message of measure people moved not vehicles moved makes fucking sense to the infinite level. I’m completely surprised that this simple logic isn’t the number one mantra for a transportation department? Are there examples of other DOT agencies that follow this logic that we can throw out as examples?

By: joe

joe — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:31:32 +0000

I am glad there are people that can take the time to keep the pressure on this subject.

By: Umberto Brayj

Umberto Brayj — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:54:44 +0000

You’re ‘tubes pass has been revoked!

By: Umberto Brayj

Umberto Brayj — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:53:34 +0000

I must say, Ed, to the novice “internetter” your troll would be most effective. However, to those of us who’ve been through the adequacy.org, rotten.com, and 4chan grinder your effort looks quite amateurish.

By: Ed

Ed — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:50:14 +0000

I am a cyclist and a huge supporter of all things cyclist related from a policy stand point. That said, I do not follow blindly all things my fellow cyclists do. The cyclists there that night were totaly in the wrong! You do not act like a savage and attack a family in a vehicle, because you have a novice cyclist hit the guys car. If I were in that hummer I would have done the same thing. Dial 911 and get my children out of there. It boils down to someone getting a hold of the cyclists who act like savages and controling them. Or you as “Crank Mod” run the risk of someone getting seriously hurt, and all of your hard work to put a good face on cyclist goes down the tubes. Lets not act like savages and throw your bike at a car carrying a family people. The victim in the hummer should sue every one of the Mid-Night Riddazz, who were there at the scene. Extract your heads people, the view and air is much clearer out here.

By: Andy B from Jersey

Andy B from Jersey — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:06:28 +0000

Class action discrimination lawsuit anyone?

By: nobody

nobody — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:48:15 +0000

The answer is obvious…the rider needs to sue the City of LA for a ridiculous sum. They won’t take this seriously until a court case forces them to.

By: Umberto Brayj

Umberto Brayj — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:35:05 +0000

Listening over the internet today, I was struck by how much microphone time the Hummer driver’s rear view mirror (which was *ahem* “vandalized”) got.

If nothing else, the behavior of these city departments has helped galvanize the cycling community towards some common goals.

Roadblock is the man for spitting my game about how we need to measure the number of people being moved on the streets instead of cars. In answer to his question about this to the council, it wouldn’t take too much to make this sort a couple of findings and pass an ordinance to allow this sort of measure to be used in LA. The General Plan’s mobility section has a monitor and evaluate page that would be ideal to add this sort of throughput measure to as part of the LADOT (or whomever’s) regular regime of road measurement.

By: SoapBoxLA

SoapBoxLA — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:44:59 +0000

It was the best of days, it was the worst of days…”

It was great to see the cycling community so well represented with folks from the four corners of bike land. It gives me hope!

It was so depressing to see the same old pony show as the LADOT and the LAPD cling to the culture of “NO!” and the Council grinds so slowly.

Through it all, we’re gonna see significant change in this city, of that I’m certain!

See you on the Streets!

By: bikinginla

bikinginla — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:48:09 +0000

I think this one comes under the heading of, well, what did you expect?

As much as I respect individual officers, as an institution, LAPD seems incapable of self-examination, let alone admitting the possibility of error. So no matter how many times cyclists point out that their conclusions in this case don’t align with the physical evidence – or the laws of physics – they will continue to come back and blame the victim.

That was why I sent an open letter to the committee members prior to today’s meeting, asking them to insist on a complete and honest report. From the sounds of it, they didn’t get it, though it does sound like Rosendahl is going to insist on getting a full report if nothing else.

As for that police bike re-education program, it’s available right now as a free download at massbike.org/police. All they have to do is update it to reflect the slight variations in California and L.A. laws — like the fact that riding on the sidewalk is legal here, and you no longer need an impossible to get bike license.