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	<title>Comments on: City Makes Space for Zipcars on Public Streets</title>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/09/city-makes-space-for-zip-cars-on-public-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-550499</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a LAXCarShare car parked in Lot D @ Union Station.  Check them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a LAXCarShare car parked in Lot D @ Union Station.  Check them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Yasmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are there no zip cars at union station in los angeles? I take the amtrak up from San Diego all the time and need to only be in LA for a few hours. Zip cars at the train station seem so obvious to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are there no zip cars at union station in los angeles? I take the amtrak up from San Diego all the time and need to only be in LA for a few hours. Zip cars at the train station seem so obvious to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/09/city-makes-space-for-zip-cars-on-public-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-20571</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am excited about carsharing.  As a former employee of Flexcar, which later merged with Zipcar, I felt the members and potential members were being left out with the new direction of the company.

Zipcar is only interested in serving the populations living on college campuses, thus leaving a criticial loss for permanent residents who solely rely on public transportation.

LAXCarshare was started to serve the residents of Los Angeles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am excited about carsharing.  As a former employee of Flexcar, which later merged with Zipcar, I felt the members and potential members were being left out with the new direction of the company.</p>
<p>Zipcar is only interested in serving the populations living on college campuses, thus leaving a criticial loss for permanent residents who solely rely on public transportation.</p>
<p>LAXCarshare was started to serve the residents of Los Angeles.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/09/city-makes-space-for-zip-cars-on-public-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4732</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Siel,

I talked to Zipcar.  No timeline yet, they need to wait and see how long it takes the city to actually get the spaces ready...They did say they&#039;re coming though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Siel,</p>
<p>I talked to Zipcar.  No timeline yet, they need to wait and see how long it takes the city to actually get the spaces ready&#8230;They did say they&#8217;re coming though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/09/city-makes-space-for-zip-cars-on-public-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4709</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment stream seems to be quickly deteriorating into arguments about crackheads, but my question is simple: Do we know when the 20 new Zipcars actually get put into place, ready for renting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment stream seems to be quickly deteriorating into arguments about crackheads, but my question is simple: Do we know when the 20 new Zipcars actually get put into place, ready for renting?</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/09/city-makes-space-for-zip-cars-on-public-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4706</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I thought you WANTED people to ride buses, but it&#039;s clear that you do not. Crackhead stories go a long way in keeping people away from buses&quot;

Mass transit should stand on its own merits. People shouldn&#039;t ride it *just* because driving sucks or is too expensive. They should ride it because it&#039;s fast, clean, safe and efficient. If it isn&#039;t any of those things, people are still going to stick with the crappy alternatives. It&#039;s up to the transit agencies and the riders to meet each other halfway on the safe and cleanliness part.

The guys in the back of the bus drinking Coronas and spitting sunflower seeds on the floor (I&#039;ve seen it) are going to turn people off to riding mass transit. People like this have obviously failed in their responsibility to act like decent human beings. Metro has also failed in their responsibility to enforce the rules. Undercover officers sweeping buses and kicking these jerks off, making them wait 15-30 minutes for the next one, might change their tune. 

But no, money for unmanned turnstiles that will be evaded all day, every day will do the trick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I thought you WANTED people to ride buses, but it&#8217;s clear that you do not. Crackhead stories go a long way in keeping people away from buses&#8221;</p>
<p>Mass transit should stand on its own merits. People shouldn&#8217;t ride it *just* because driving sucks or is too expensive. They should ride it because it&#8217;s fast, clean, safe and efficient. If it isn&#8217;t any of those things, people are still going to stick with the crappy alternatives. It&#8217;s up to the transit agencies and the riders to meet each other halfway on the safe and cleanliness part.</p>
<p>The guys in the back of the bus drinking Coronas and spitting sunflower seeds on the floor (I&#8217;ve seen it) are going to turn people off to riding mass transit. People like this have obviously failed in their responsibility to act like decent human beings. Metro has also failed in their responsibility to enforce the rules. Undercover officers sweeping buses and kicking these jerks off, making them wait 15-30 minutes for the next one, might change their tune. </p>
<p>But no, money for unmanned turnstiles that will be evaded all day, every day will do the trick.</p>
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		<title>By: browne</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/09/city-makes-space-for-zip-cars-on-public-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4703</link>
		<dc:creator>browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramon, I&#039;m not a liar. Shit does happen on the bus and that shit should be talked about, because when people do get on the bus they are going to kind of notice.

I mean really get on the two at 2am and tell me if you would view that as an ABC Family experience.

And plus I&#039;m just saying what I see, if you think I&#039;m an advocate or something, well that would be like thinking that Amy Winehouse is a good role model for girls, not that I&#039;m Amy Winehouse or I smoke crack, but I&#039;m really not the one to look for in regards to positive happy talk. Funny, maybe, positive, well if reality is positive then maybe I am.

Get on the bus at 1am and tell me what you see Ramonchu, maybe my perspective is tainted owing to my alcohol abuse or maybe I&#039;m crazy. Maybe the bus at 2am is a big party with flowers and candy.

Browne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramon, I&#8217;m not a liar. Shit does happen on the bus and that shit should be talked about, because when people do get on the bus they are going to kind of notice.</p>
<p>I mean really get on the two at 2am and tell me if you would view that as an ABC Family experience.</p>
<p>And plus I&#8217;m just saying what I see, if you think I&#8217;m an advocate or something, well that would be like thinking that Amy Winehouse is a good role model for girls, not that I&#8217;m Amy Winehouse or I smoke crack, but I&#8217;m really not the one to look for in regards to positive happy talk. Funny, maybe, positive, well if reality is positive then maybe I am.</p>
<p>Get on the bus at 1am and tell me what you see Ramonchu, maybe my perspective is tainted owing to my alcohol abuse or maybe I&#8217;m crazy. Maybe the bus at 2am is a big party with flowers and candy.</p>
<p>Browne</p>
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		<title>By: ramonchu</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/09/city-makes-space-for-zip-cars-on-public-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4699</link>
		<dc:creator>ramonchu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zipcar/car share will never work in LA because people aren&#039;t given comprehensive reason to get rid of their cars;

Browne; I thought you WANTED people to ride buses, but it&#039;s clear that you do not. Crackhead stories go a long way in keeping people away from buses or...no that&#039;s all they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zipcar/car share will never work in LA because people aren&#8217;t given comprehensive reason to get rid of their cars;</p>
<p>Browne; I thought you WANTED people to ride buses, but it&#8217;s clear that you do not. Crackhead stories go a long way in keeping people away from buses or&#8230;no that&#8217;s all they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mdogg</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/09/city-makes-space-for-zip-cars-on-public-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4698</link>
		<dc:creator>Mdogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not at all to hate zipcar. I hate their guts. THEIR GUTS. They bought and subsequently neutered the excellent ride-share program, FlexCar. Once upon a time, it was the perfect fallback for the carfree lifestyle liver who occasionally needed to make a trip to Ikea/ where-ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not at all to hate zipcar. I hate their guts. THEIR GUTS. They bought and subsequently neutered the excellent ride-share program, FlexCar. Once upon a time, it was the perfect fallback for the carfree lifestyle liver who occasionally needed to make a trip to Ikea/ where-ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/09/city-makes-space-for-zip-cars-on-public-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4694</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the Griffith Obs Shuttle is great... it&#039;s too bad it doesn&#039;t run on weekdays (when it&#039;s simply the Los Feliz DASH).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the Griffith Obs Shuttle is great&#8230; it&#8217;s too bad it doesn&#8217;t run on weekdays (when it&#8217;s simply the Los Feliz DASH).</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually of the mind that walking up to the Griffith Observatory from Vermont/Sunset isn&#039;t bad. Granted, it takes awhile to get through the neighborhoods on foot. But once you enter the park, there&#039;s a secluded hiking trail to the Observatory with nice views along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually of the mind that walking up to the Griffith Observatory from Vermont/Sunset isn&#8217;t bad. Granted, it takes awhile to get through the neighborhoods on foot. But once you enter the park, there&#8217;s a secluded hiking trail to the Observatory with nice views along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: browne</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/09/city-makes-space-for-zip-cars-on-public-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4685</link>
		<dc:creator>browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t underestimate the entertainment value of taking public transit at night in LA. It&#039;s so exciting. Will the bus actually show up. Will you be stranded and end up having a convesation with some person with a sidewalk condo. Who knows. Maybe someone will try to kidnap you while waiting.

And if the bus does come, well who knows the interesting people you may meet while on the two or 60.

Here&#039;s a link to one of my late night bus trips.

http://www.thebusbench.com/2008/02/brazilian-nites.html

Ever watch someone with all their belongings in a bag and one of those belongings is a crack pipe? And to watch the person scramble on the dirty bus floor to get that crack pipe and then yell at you because you&#039;re watching them do this crazy thing? I don&#039;t know where in LA you can have that kind of experience for only 1.25.

The destination is part of the fun!!!

Browne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t underestimate the entertainment value of taking public transit at night in LA. It&#8217;s so exciting. Will the bus actually show up. Will you be stranded and end up having a convesation with some person with a sidewalk condo. Who knows. Maybe someone will try to kidnap you while waiting.</p>
<p>And if the bus does come, well who knows the interesting people you may meet while on the two or 60.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to one of my late night bus trips.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thebusbench.com/2008/02/brazilian-nites.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebusbench.com/2008/02/brazilian-nites.html</a></p>
<p>Ever watch someone with all their belongings in a bag and one of those belongings is a crack pipe? And to watch the person scramble on the dirty bus floor to get that crack pipe and then yell at you because you&#8217;re watching them do this crazy thing? I don&#8217;t know where in LA you can have that kind of experience for only 1.25.</p>
<p>The destination is part of the fun!!!</p>
<p>Browne</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the Griffith Observatory, there is weekend shuttle service from Vermont/Sunset that takes you to the observatory. I&#039;ve taken it before and I found it to be pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the Griffith Observatory, there is weekend shuttle service from Vermont/Sunset that takes you to the observatory. I&#8217;ve taken it before and I found it to be pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zipcar is great here in the Bay Area.  There are numerous locations in SF and Berkeley.  It&#039;s great for running errands in different locations.  Say you wanted to hit up Trader Joes, but also pick up your dry cleaning in a different shopping center.  It would take significantly longer to do that by Metro.  

Or, you could do what I did last weekend... take the girlfriend into the city and get off at 24th-Mission BART, pickup a Zipcar for one hour to Twin Peaks and back.  Cheaper than a taxi and you don&#039;t need to call a taxi when you&#039;re ready to go back!  I&#039;d definitely do the same thing if they had car sharing at Hollywood/Western or Vermont/Sunset for the Griffith Observatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zipcar is great here in the Bay Area.  There are numerous locations in SF and Berkeley.  It&#8217;s great for running errands in different locations.  Say you wanted to hit up Trader Joes, but also pick up your dry cleaning in a different shopping center.  It would take significantly longer to do that by Metro.  </p>
<p>Or, you could do what I did last weekend&#8230; take the girlfriend into the city and get off at 24th-Mission BART, pickup a Zipcar for one hour to Twin Peaks and back.  Cheaper than a taxi and you don&#8217;t need to call a taxi when you&#8217;re ready to go back!  I&#8217;d definitely do the same thing if they had car sharing at Hollywood/Western or Vermont/Sunset for the Griffith Observatory.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Automobiles are an important part of our transportation network. To say that cars are bad across the board is extreme. 

Despite my insistence on mass transit, I still *like* to drive, just not through congested LA. I love Sunday drives. I love taking off spontaneously with my girlfriend. I love road trips.

I currently own a car but only drive it when transit cannot take me where I need to go. My school and work commutes are both taken by transit. But if I want to go to say, Joshua Tree National park to see the stars, no bus or train will take me there. If I want to travel somewhere late at night, I will have to take along the car. 

An established daily commute is simpler on mass transit than a spontaneous trip on mass transit in unfamiliar territory. If a infrequent or one-time trip looks to be like a pain in the ass on transit, I will take the car.

Perhaps if I had Zipcar in my neighborhood, I would ditch my car entirely. 

In my view, Zipcar might entice more people to give up their own car and rely on mass transit. By having Zipcar for those what-if situations it removes the fear of being &quot;trapped&quot; by transit. 

I hope it becomes more widespread, more affordable and more popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Automobiles are an important part of our transportation network. To say that cars are bad across the board is extreme. </p>
<p>Despite my insistence on mass transit, I still *like* to drive, just not through congested LA. I love Sunday drives. I love taking off spontaneously with my girlfriend. I love road trips.</p>
<p>I currently own a car but only drive it when transit cannot take me where I need to go. My school and work commutes are both taken by transit. But if I want to go to say, Joshua Tree National park to see the stars, no bus or train will take me there. If I want to travel somewhere late at night, I will have to take along the car. </p>
<p>An established daily commute is simpler on mass transit than a spontaneous trip on mass transit in unfamiliar territory. If a infrequent or one-time trip looks to be like a pain in the ass on transit, I will take the car.</p>
<p>Perhaps if I had Zipcar in my neighborhood, I would ditch my car entirely. </p>
<p>In my view, Zipcar might entice more people to give up their own car and rely on mass transit. By having Zipcar for those what-if situations it removes the fear of being &#8220;trapped&#8221; by transit. </p>
<p>I hope it becomes more widespread, more affordable and more popular.</p>
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		<title>By: browne</title>
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		<dc:creator>browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it wrong that I hate Zipcar? UCLA has great transit service and so does USC (cycle or walk your Trojan but to the Blue Line and in one stop you&#039;re in downtown LA which is the only place in LA that you can almost get anywhere with just one bus or train,) so why is Zipcar providing people with in my opinion is the methadone of the trying to get off their car addiction set, the easy to rent personal vehicle?

Ok, I said it. I feel better. I know many of you don&#039;t agree, but it had to be said. 

Boo!! to the regular car rental. 

Browne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it wrong that I hate Zipcar? UCLA has great transit service and so does USC (cycle or walk your Trojan but to the Blue Line and in one stop you&#8217;re in downtown LA which is the only place in LA that you can almost get anywhere with just one bus or train,) so why is Zipcar providing people with in my opinion is the methadone of the trying to get off their car addiction set, the easy to rent personal vehicle?</p>
<p>Ok, I said it. I feel better. I know many of you don&#8217;t agree, but it had to be said. </p>
<p>Boo!! to the regular car rental. </p>
<p>Browne</p>
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