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		<title>By: panhandledan</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/05/homeowners-rail-against-405-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-4648</link>
		<dc:creator>panhandledan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Putting a rail project along the 405 would be fantastic, but I think it&#039;s just not high enough in priority for us to expect to see anything within the next decade.&quot;

Do you think priorities can ever change, if they are demanded?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Putting a rail project along the 405 would be fantastic, but I think it&#8217;s just not high enough in priority for us to expect to see anything within the next decade.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you think priorities can ever change, if they are demanded?</p>
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		<title>By: David Galvan</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Galvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting a rail project along the 405 would be fantastic, but I think it&#039;s just not high enough in priority for us to expect to see anything within the next decade.  There&#039;s some money in Measure R for a &quot;sepulveda project&quot;, but it&#039;s a small amount and will probably just cover doing a study to see what mode would work best there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting a rail project along the 405 would be fantastic, but I think it&#8217;s just not high enough in priority for us to expect to see anything within the next decade.  There&#8217;s some money in Measure R for a &#8220;sepulveda project&#8221;, but it&#8217;s a small amount and will probably just cover doing a study to see what mode would work best there.</p>
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		<title>By: panhandledan</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/05/homeowners-rail-against-405-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-4646</link>
		<dc:creator>panhandledan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unlike us ordinary folks, their op-eds don’t languish or end up only being posted online. :-(&quot;

I think that&#039;s up to us.  Some friends and I have mounted a campaign of large freeway sign postings, and we will be literally driving traffic to a web site to promote rail in Los Angeles by harnessing road rage into political action.  In particular I&#039;m interested in rail on or parallel to the 405, and integration with bike paths.

Suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unlike us ordinary folks, their op-eds don’t languish or end up only being posted online. :-(&#8220;</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s up to us.  Some friends and I have mounted a campaign of large freeway sign postings, and we will be literally driving traffic to a web site to promote rail in Los Angeles by harnessing road rage into political action.  In particular I&#8217;m interested in rail on or parallel to the 405, and integration with bike paths.</p>
<p>Suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Dana Gabbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana Gabbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I also have the sinking feeling that if anyone ever tries to build a light rail line through the area, the Homeowners of Encino will be just as angry.&quot;

Absolutely. The modus operandi of neighborhood associations in our region generally is NIMBY opposition to everything. William Fulton in the Reluctant Metropolis discusses how these kind of groups have shaped our built landscape. Sherman Oaks, Los Feliz and Miracle Mile are examples of areas with very organized associations of this type, able to flood a public hearing with residents declaiming that &quot;[fill in the blank] will ruin our neighborhood&quot;. They get quoted in the media (e.g. the aforementioned Mr. Close or Richard H. Close of the Sherman Oaks Neighborhood Association) and often have to means to make bureaucracies blink. Bloggers often carelessly talk of storming city hall or undertaking a ballot measure or mounting an effort to pass legislation. It is mostly big talk. But these uber activist/homeowner bigwig types are the real deal. Close, for instance, played a key role in the passage of Proposition 13 and the recent new charter for the city of Los Angeles, as outlined in his biography posted on the website of the law firm he works at: 

http://www.gilchristrutter.com/Bio/RichardClose.asp

These are formidable opinion leaders, and have influence even though their motives are often self-serving and/or derived from knee-jerk impulses. Unlike us ordinary folks, their op-eds don’t languish or end up only being posted online. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I also have the sinking feeling that if anyone ever tries to build a light rail line through the area, the Homeowners of Encino will be just as angry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely. The modus operandi of neighborhood associations in our region generally is NIMBY opposition to everything. William Fulton in the Reluctant Metropolis discusses how these kind of groups have shaped our built landscape. Sherman Oaks, Los Feliz and Miracle Mile are examples of areas with very organized associations of this type, able to flood a public hearing with residents declaiming that &#8220;[fill in the blank] will ruin our neighborhood&#8221;. They get quoted in the media (e.g. the aforementioned Mr. Close or Richard H. Close of the Sherman Oaks Neighborhood Association) and often have to means to make bureaucracies blink. Bloggers often carelessly talk of storming city hall or undertaking a ballot measure or mounting an effort to pass legislation. It is mostly big talk. But these uber activist/homeowner bigwig types are the real deal. Close, for instance, played a key role in the passage of Proposition 13 and the recent new charter for the city of Los Angeles, as outlined in his biography posted on the website of the law firm he works at: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gilchristrutter.com/Bio/RichardClose.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.gilchristrutter.com/Bio/RichardClose.asp</a></p>
<p>These are formidable opinion leaders, and have influence even though their motives are often self-serving and/or derived from knee-jerk impulses. Unlike us ordinary folks, their op-eds don’t languish or end up only being posted online. :-(</p>
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		<title>By: panhandledan</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/03/05/homeowners-rail-against-405-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-4633</link>
		<dc:creator>panhandledan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not build rail up the center of the 405?

We have a desperate bottleneck along this route, and rail is orders of magnitude more dense than freeway lanes. We also need to connect several extant or emerging East-West rail lines (Expo, Subway to Sea, Green Line) which have no North-South connection West of downtown. It&#039;s also politically next to impossible to acquire new rights of way.  In my mind, these three problems cry out for a 405 rail.

Stations could be elevated, underpassed, or situated off the freeway in order to moderate the noise and pollution.

Aren&#039;t we spending around $1 billion to accommodate those HOV lanes?  The Green Line (down the center of the 105) cost less than $1 billion, and is 17 miles long.

Many key destinations are right near the 405 from the LAX Green Line station on North all the way to the 101, where it could turn right and hook up with the Red Line in North Hollywood. Loop Complete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not build rail up the center of the 405?</p>
<p>We have a desperate bottleneck along this route, and rail is orders of magnitude more dense than freeway lanes. We also need to connect several extant or emerging East-West rail lines (Expo, Subway to Sea, Green Line) which have no North-South connection West of downtown. It&#8217;s also politically next to impossible to acquire new rights of way.  In my mind, these three problems cry out for a 405 rail.</p>
<p>Stations could be elevated, underpassed, or situated off the freeway in order to moderate the noise and pollution.</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t we spending around $1 billion to accommodate those HOV lanes?  The Green Line (down the center of the 105) cost less than $1 billion, and is 17 miles long.</p>
<p>Many key destinations are right near the 405 from the LAX Green Line station on North all the way to the 101, where it could turn right and hook up with the Red Line in North Hollywood. Loop Complete.</p>
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		<title>By: calwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>calwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And sometimes you get ugly Soviet style apartment blocks, or worse yet, half built shells, worsening residential neighborhoods. This is what happened to Monterey Park in the 80&#039;s and Rosemead today. Go outside the bubble and look at the San Gabriel Valley for how bad dense development has ruined communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And sometimes you get ugly Soviet style apartment blocks, or worse yet, half built shells, worsening residential neighborhoods. This is what happened to Monterey Park in the 80&#8242;s and Rosemead today. Go outside the bubble and look at the San Gabriel Valley for how bad dense development has ruined communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We need to think smarter, not taller&quot;

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Sometimes taller IS smarter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We need to think smarter, not taller&#8221;</p>
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<p>Sometimes taller IS smarter.</p>
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		<title>By: calwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>calwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if someone becomes Kramer and decides to put paint thinner over the lane lines (&quot;The Pothole&quot;), does that mean that traffic congestion decreases? This is complete garbage. I agree that spending millions of dollars to accommodate four or five hours of peak hour traffic is probably not a good idea, but excess congestion will just end up choking an economy. Either you give people real alternatives, preferably ones that run on their own right of way, or you can shrivel up and not function as a community. After all, Detroit has no congestion, and you can buy a (single family!) house for $7,000. 

LA does NOT need denser land usage. Density could be increased in some areas, but more density often just brings more cars parked on the street and more traffic. During the housing boom, perfectly functional single family neighborhoods were being ripped out in the Valley and turned into condos. Now they are low income housing and foreclosures. We need to think smarter, not taller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if someone becomes Kramer and decides to put paint thinner over the lane lines (&#8220;The Pothole&#8221;), does that mean that traffic congestion decreases? This is complete garbage. I agree that spending millions of dollars to accommodate four or five hours of peak hour traffic is probably not a good idea, but excess congestion will just end up choking an economy. Either you give people real alternatives, preferably ones that run on their own right of way, or you can shrivel up and not function as a community. After all, Detroit has no congestion, and you can buy a (single family!) house for $7,000. </p>
<p>LA does NOT need denser land usage. Density could be increased in some areas, but more density often just brings more cars parked on the street and more traffic. During the housing boom, perfectly functional single family neighborhoods were being ripped out in the Valley and turned into condos. Now they are low income housing and foreclosures. We need to think smarter, not taller.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulCJr</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulCJr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know if they widen the 405 it will eventually just lead to more traffic. Come on and think about it. For all those folks that have been living in SoCal all their lives can tell, when the freeway gets widen, it flow a little bit faster for a while and then its back to the same ol&#039;. Widening the 405 isn&#039;t going to do anything but make traffic on that freeway worst and the community it will go through. LA does need more rail lines, but not every where, only in the denser older areas. What LA really needs is denser land usage. We drive because everything is so far. For crying out loud, people have to drive to Starbucks in some areas. My sentence is the real reason traffic is bad in LA and SoCal. Oh, by the way what is Spoker talking about??? I thought this article was about the 405.

-Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know if they widen the 405 it will eventually just lead to more traffic. Come on and think about it. For all those folks that have been living in SoCal all their lives can tell, when the freeway gets widen, it flow a little bit faster for a while and then its back to the same ol&#8217;. Widening the 405 isn&#8217;t going to do anything but make traffic on that freeway worst and the community it will go through. LA does need more rail lines, but not every where, only in the denser older areas. What LA really needs is denser land usage. We drive because everything is so far. For crying out loud, people have to drive to Starbucks in some areas. My sentence is the real reason traffic is bad in LA and SoCal. Oh, by the way what is Spoker talking about??? I thought this article was about the 405.</p>
<p>-Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s a great idea, Dan.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spokker, I&#039;d be happy with a carpool lane that requires 2 ADULTS.  I like your idea of 3 adults, but 2 adults would be a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spokker, I&#8217;d be happy with a carpool lane that requires 2 ADULTS.  I like your idea of 3 adults, but 2 adults would be a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Adding freeway lanes to battle congestion is like fighting obesity by buying larger pants.&quot;

In many cases, yes. There is a decreased marginal benefit to adding a lane to an already congested freeway with each lane you add. I don&#039;t know if the 405 has reached a point of no return, so to speak. But it&#039;s worth studying. 

But I would lobby for carpool lanes that only allow 3 or more passengers per vehicle during rush hour. I would lobby Metro to utilize those lanes for express bus services, the kind you see on I-10. 

Then say, &quot;Hey, we&#039;ll lighten up on the opposition to this freeway if we can get a north-south rail alternative to the 405 going...&quot; Why wouldn&#039;t compromise like that work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Adding freeway lanes to battle congestion is like fighting obesity by buying larger pants.&#8221;</p>
<p>In many cases, yes. There is a decreased marginal benefit to adding a lane to an already congested freeway with each lane you add. I don&#8217;t know if the 405 has reached a point of no return, so to speak. But it&#8217;s worth studying. </p>
<p>But I would lobby for carpool lanes that only allow 3 or more passengers per vehicle during rush hour. I would lobby Metro to utilize those lanes for express bus services, the kind you see on I-10. </p>
<p>Then say, &#8220;Hey, we&#8217;ll lighten up on the opposition to this freeway if we can get a north-south rail alternative to the 405 going&#8230;&#8221; Why wouldn&#8217;t compromise like that work?</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most would agree that always opposing freeway widening projects would be exactly as silly as supporting EVERY rail proposal.
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I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right.  &quot;Most&quot; would.  But &quot;most&quot; Californians voted for Schwarzenegger believing he was a Green Governor.  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s true either.

Adding freeway lanes to battle congestion is like fighting obesity by buying larger pants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most would agree that always opposing freeway widening projects would be exactly as silly as supporting EVERY rail proposal.<br />
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I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right.  &#8220;Most&#8221; would.  But &#8220;most&#8221; Californians voted for Schwarzenegger believing he was a Green Governor.  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s true either.</p>
<p>Adding freeway lanes to battle congestion is like fighting obesity by buying larger pants.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Projects should be built based on merit and transportation need. Like it or not, road capacity is still a need.&quot;
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I agree with this actually.  The 710 Freeway needs to be fixed at both ends and will require a road solution.

My point is more about NIMBYs in general who think that they can halt any and all transportation improvements. Measure R has funds for a Sepulveda project.  Eventually SOMETHING will be built through Encino.  Encino residents might want to get proactive so that what is built is something friendlier to them.  If they take a &quot;just say no&quot; attitude, they may end up with something rammed down their throats that they really don&#039;t like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Projects should be built based on merit and transportation need. Like it or not, road capacity is still a need.&#8221;<br />
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<p>I agree with this actually.  The 710 Freeway needs to be fixed at both ends and will require a road solution.</p>
<p>My point is more about NIMBYs in general who think that they can halt any and all transportation improvements. Measure R has funds for a Sepulveda project.  Eventually SOMETHING will be built through Encino.  Encino residents might want to get proactive so that what is built is something friendlier to them.  If they take a &#8220;just say no&#8221; attitude, they may end up with something rammed down their throats that they really don&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Projects should be built based on merit and transportation need. Like it or not, road capacity is still a need. While I want to see equal attention given to rail, that doesn&#039;t mean you neglect highways. The 405 is one of the busiest and most congested freeways in the world.

Mass transit should be attractive based on its own merits, not just because traffic is awful. Rail should be built to be as quick and efficient as possible. If a train stops at intersections it makes the line much less attractive to a driver. He&#039;ll ask, &quot;What&#039;s the point?&quot; and return to his car.

Go lobby for a half-assed light rail alternative to the 405 instead of a freeway widening. Traffic will still be awful on the 405 and the transit riders will still be depressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Projects should be built based on merit and transportation need. Like it or not, road capacity is still a need. While I want to see equal attention given to rail, that doesn&#8217;t mean you neglect highways. The 405 is one of the busiest and most congested freeways in the world.</p>
<p>Mass transit should be attractive based on its own merits, not just because traffic is awful. Rail should be built to be as quick and efficient as possible. If a train stops at intersections it makes the line much less attractive to a driver. He&#8217;ll ask, &#8220;What&#8217;s the point?&#8221; and return to his car.</p>
<p>Go lobby for a half-assed light rail alternative to the 405 instead of a freeway widening. Traffic will still be awful on the 405 and the transit riders will still be depressed.</p>
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		<title>By: JRIder</title>
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		<dc:creator>JRIder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Suddenly? I would always side with opponents of freeway widening whether or not they&#039;re HOV Lanes or not.&quot;

I think most would agree that always opposing freeway widening projects would be exactly as silly as supporting EVERY rail proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Suddenly? I would always side with opponents of freeway widening whether or not they&#8217;re HOV Lanes or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think most would agree that always opposing freeway widening projects would be exactly as silly as supporting EVERY rail proposal.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suddenly? I would always side with opponents of freeway widening whether or not they&#039;re HOV Lanes or not.  

The good news is that if they&#039;re taking federal dollars the carpool has to be three per car.  Only California considers a parent taking one child to soccer practice a carpool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suddenly? I would always side with opponents of freeway widening whether or not they&#8217;re HOV Lanes or not.  </p>
<p>The good news is that if they&#8217;re taking federal dollars the carpool has to be three per car.  Only California considers a parent taking one child to soccer practice a carpool.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I also have the sinking feeling that if anyone ever tries to build a light rail line through the area, the Homeowners of Encino will be just as angry.&quot;
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There are many Los Angelenos longing for Sam Yorty&#039;s Los Angeles who really need a time machine more than anything in the real world.

Why don&#039;t we offer a choice?  You can widen the 405 or we can get started on a Sepulveda LRT between Sylar and LAX?  The option not on the table is neither.</description>
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<p>There are many Los Angelenos longing for Sam Yorty&#8217;s Los Angeles who really need a time machine more than anything in the real world.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we offer a choice?  You can widen the 405 or we can get started on a Sepulveda LRT between Sylar and LAX?  The option not on the table is neither.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I also have the sinking feeling that if anyone ever tries to build a light rail line through the area, the Homeowners of Encino will be just as angry.&quot;

Exactly. They will grasp at straws to oppose any project, rail or freeway. So it&#039;s confusing why this blog is suddenly rallying around the opponents of a freeway widening. They would just as quickly turn on mass transit.</description>
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<p>Exactly. They will grasp at straws to oppose any project, rail or freeway. So it&#8217;s confusing why this blog is suddenly rallying around the opponents of a freeway widening. They would just as quickly turn on mass transit.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my mind, it will be good ONLY if they make it 3+, like the El Monte Busway, or a HOT lane.  I&#039;ve taken the 405 South between LAX and the 605... on Thurs and Fridays, there is almost no time savings in the carpool lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my mind, it will be good ONLY if they make it 3+, like the El Monte Busway, or a HOT lane.  I&#8217;ve taken the 405 South between LAX and the 605&#8230; on Thurs and Fridays, there is almost no time savings in the carpool lane.</p>
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