Comments on: From Biking in LA: The Pedestrian Free Crosswalk http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/02/09/from-biking-in-la-the-pedestrian-free-crosswalk/ Covering Los Angeles's livable streets movement Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Evan http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/02/09/from-biking-in-la-the-pedestrian-free-crosswalk/comment-page-1/#comment-4143 Evan Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:14:21 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=1728#comment-4143 This sounds like Bush's plan to reduce forest fires - cut down all the trees! I have a better idea to improve cross walk safety: remove the cars instead. This sounds like Bush’s plan to reduce forest fires – cut down all the trees!
I have a better idea to improve cross walk safety: remove the cars instead.

]]> By: Damien Newton http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/02/09/from-biking-in-la-the-pedestrian-free-crosswalk/comment-page-1/#comment-4136 Damien Newton Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:14:43 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=1728#comment-4136 I have a couple of emails into LADOT asking for clarification. I'll let you all know if/when I hear anything. I have a couple of emails into LADOT asking for clarification. I’ll let you all know if/when I hear anything.

]]> By: WestSiderRider http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/02/09/from-biking-in-la-the-pedestrian-free-crosswalk/comment-page-1/#comment-4135 WestSiderRider Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:12:21 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=1728#comment-4135 Wow... just wow. I'm new to LA Streetsblog and this is just an incredible sight. I wonder if anyone has received a ticket for crossing at this crosswalk. The sign is meaningless without enforcement. Wow… just wow.

I’m new to LA Streetsblog and this is just an incredible sight.

I wonder if anyone has received a ticket for crossing at this crosswalk. The sign is meaningless without enforcement.

]]> By: Umberto Brayj http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/02/09/from-biking-in-la-the-pedestrian-free-crosswalk/comment-page-1/#comment-4132 Umberto Brayj Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:48:55 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=1728#comment-4132 Yes, this does make sense: "TDM" and "Live/Work" are obviously double speak for "stuff to make people shut up and let us keep on designing roads for cars". There are no standard in the General Plan, or any extant plan I am aware of, that call for <b>measurement</b> of pedestrian access. The LADOT barely measures car throughput (relying on old models for LOS, ADT, and VMT), and in a domain where only civil engineers are called on for design standards (not sociologists, urban planners, anthropologists, or locals) this, I gues, is no surprise at all. The crosswalk is eye candy in L.A., like those ridiculous bits of "nature" stapled to the outside perimeter of strip malls that "mitigate" the sheer ugliness of things. Yes, this does make sense:

“TDM” and “Live/Work” are obviously double speak for “stuff to make people shut up and let us keep on designing roads for cars”.

There are no standard in the General Plan, or any extant plan I am aware of, that call for measurement of pedestrian access. The LADOT barely measures car throughput (relying on old models for LOS, ADT, and VMT), and in a domain where only civil engineers are called on for design standards (not sociologists, urban planners, anthropologists, or locals) this, I gues, is no surprise at all.

The crosswalk is eye candy in L.A., like those ridiculous bits of “nature” stapled to the outside perimeter of strip malls that “mitigate” the sheer ugliness of things.

]]> By: cochon http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/02/09/from-biking-in-la-the-pedestrian-free-crosswalk/comment-page-1/#comment-4131 cochon Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:47:34 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=1728#comment-4131 fail! fail!

]]> By: Clarence Eckerson http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/02/09/from-biking-in-la-the-pedestrian-free-crosswalk/comment-page-1/#comment-4130 Clarence Eckerson Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:16:36 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=1728#comment-4130 WTF? This might be screaming for a Streetfilm! I mean, most crosswalks aren't done that nicely with beautiful pavers and such....and then to have it illegal to cross? Wow. Crazy times. WTF? This might be screaming for a Streetfilm! I mean, most crosswalks aren’t done that nicely with beautiful pavers and such….and then to have it illegal to cross? Wow. Crazy times.

]]> By: bikinginla http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/02/09/from-biking-in-la-the-pedestrian-free-crosswalk/comment-page-1/#comment-4129 bikinginla Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:56:25 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=1728#comment-4129 It makes sense to me to tear the signs down -- there are at least three No Pedestrian signs there -- but the question is, why did they go up in the first place? This intersection has always had a crosswalk there, and now that they've built a supposedly pedestrian-friendly live/work complex on that corner, they try to actively discourage pedestrians. Does that make sense to anyone? It makes sense to me to tear the signs down — there are at least three No Pedestrian signs there — but the question is, why did they go up in the first place? This intersection has always had a crosswalk there, and now that they’ve built a supposedly pedestrian-friendly live/work complex on that corner, they try to actively discourage pedestrians. Does that make sense to anyone?

]]> By: mechazawa http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/02/09/from-biking-in-la-the-pedestrian-free-crosswalk/comment-page-1/#comment-4127 mechazawa Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:38:10 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=1728#comment-4127 its not going to improve traffic. which is big motivator for the city to make odd policies. but this right here...why are they trying to restrict people? Or is it that they did not get what is happening when they made it. its not going to improve traffic. which is big motivator for the city to make odd policies. but this right here…why are they trying to restrict people? Or is it that they did not get what is happening when they made it.

]]> By: Umberto Brayj http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/02/09/from-biking-in-la-the-pedestrian-free-crosswalk/comment-page-1/#comment-4126 Umberto Brayj Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:10:43 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/?p=1728#comment-4126 Gaaahh!!! WTF?! Would it really be that wrong to just rip that stupid sign down? I'll pay for the darn tools. Gaaahh!!!

WTF?!

Would it really be that wrong to just rip that stupid sign down? I’ll pay for the darn tools.

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