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	<title>Comments on: City&#8217;s Measure R Plan a Test for Villaraigosa</title>
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		<title>By: Randall BusTard</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3916</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall BusTard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kym stated in comment #13: &quot;However, I confirmed with Metro staff on Friday that the local return component of Measure R funds will not have the same restrictions, and can be used for bicycle and pedestrian projects.&quot;

Perhaps you might want to cite your source, i.e., the &quot;Metro staff&quot; that confirmed it for you? To be sure, I think many folk reading this would like to know a name or names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kym stated in comment #13: &#8220;However, I confirmed with Metro staff on Friday that the local return component of Measure R funds will not have the same restrictions, and can be used for bicycle and pedestrian projects.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps you might want to cite your source, i.e., the &#8220;Metro staff&#8221; that confirmed it for you? To be sure, I think many folk reading this would like to know a name or names.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3910</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Dan, about a primer on bike riding, I think the folks at CICLE.org have what you&#039;re looking for:

http://www.cicle.org/cicle_content/pivot/entry.php?id=697

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Thank you!  This is exactly what I was looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Dan, about a primer on bike riding, I think the folks at CICLE.org have what you&#8217;re looking for:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cicle.org/cicle_content/pivot/entry.php?id=697" rel="nofollow">http://www.cicle.org/cicle_content/pivot/entry.php?id=697</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Thank you!  This is exactly what I was looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcotico</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3905</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcotico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by prospects I mean technical/engineering feasibility and political acceptance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by prospects I mean technical/engineering feasibility and political acceptance.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcotico</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3904</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcotico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey UBrayj,

Another &quot;go big&quot; approach might be to work on a identifying one major piece of bike infrastructure, such as 1-3 major bike corridors.  Lobby local cities and neighborhood councils along the route to get invested, then lobby Metro to plan, coordinate, and fund the studies, and engineering.  Then the local councils and city could focus on feeder routes,  and amenities.  After reading about Bike Boulevards, I&#039;ve always thought of route like 6th, 3rd, Beverly or Melrose on the Westside (sorry that is where I once lived) as having great potential as a crosstown bike highway.  

Also on a side note, since I live down in the OC now, I discovered some great roads for bike commuting with low vehicle traffic.  the problem is the roads (and bike lanes) are in a crappy state of disrepair.  I wonder what the prospects are for improving bike lanes on a road without improving the road itself.  This might be an interesting strategy to pursue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey UBrayj,</p>
<p>Another &#8220;go big&#8221; approach might be to work on a identifying one major piece of bike infrastructure, such as 1-3 major bike corridors.  Lobby local cities and neighborhood councils along the route to get invested, then lobby Metro to plan, coordinate, and fund the studies, and engineering.  Then the local councils and city could focus on feeder routes,  and amenities.  After reading about Bike Boulevards, I&#8217;ve always thought of route like 6th, 3rd, Beverly or Melrose on the Westside (sorry that is where I once lived) as having great potential as a crosstown bike highway.  </p>
<p>Also on a side note, since I live down in the OC now, I discovered some great roads for bike commuting with low vehicle traffic.  the problem is the roads (and bike lanes) are in a crappy state of disrepair.  I wonder what the prospects are for improving bike lanes on a road without improving the road itself.  This might be an interesting strategy to pursue.</p>
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		<title>By: Umberto Brayj</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3895</link>
		<dc:creator>Umberto Brayj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The City of Los Angeles, for example, read through the MTA&#039;s Local Returns project funding guidelines. They therfore rejected, prior to submitting proposals to the MTA, projects that did not match the MTA&#039;s criteria. The MTA&#039;s criteris for project funding are the choke point for Local Return money to go to bike and pedestrian projects.

Further, there are plenty of law-suit worthy places for a bike advocate to sue the City and County, and I hope work in the next few years to assemble the resources and coalition to do just that. It is one piece of a larger movement, but using the courts can be very effective.

Both Kym and Wad are right, however, about local general funds being better suited to bike projects - as it allows the smaller bike movement to place pressure where they have the resources and ability to influence the process. Bike amenities are VERY cheap - so $4 to $5 million per year could give L.A. one of the premier bike networks in the world in about 8 to 10 years.

And Dan, about a primer on bike riding, I think the folks at CICLE.org have what you&#039;re looking for:

http://www.cicle.org/cicle_content/pivot/entry.php?id=697</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City of Los Angeles, for example, read through the MTA&#8217;s Local Returns project funding guidelines. They therfore rejected, prior to submitting proposals to the MTA, projects that did not match the MTA&#8217;s criteria. The MTA&#8217;s criteris for project funding are the choke point for Local Return money to go to bike and pedestrian projects.</p>
<p>Further, there are plenty of law-suit worthy places for a bike advocate to sue the City and County, and I hope work in the next few years to assemble the resources and coalition to do just that. It is one piece of a larger movement, but using the courts can be very effective.</p>
<p>Both Kym and Wad are right, however, about local general funds being better suited to bike projects &#8211; as it allows the smaller bike movement to place pressure where they have the resources and ability to influence the process. Bike amenities are VERY cheap &#8211; so $4 to $5 million per year could give L.A. one of the premier bike networks in the world in about 8 to 10 years.</p>
<p>And Dan, about a primer on bike riding, I think the folks at CICLE.org have what you&#8217;re looking for:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cicle.org/cicle_content/pivot/entry.php?id=697" rel="nofollow">http://www.cicle.org/cicle_content/pivot/entry.php?id=697</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3894</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wondering if Los Angeles&#039; various neighborhoods councils might be helpful here.  Would they not be more likely to have grass roots activists who know where the most desired pedestrian and bicycle improvements in their neighborhoods might best be placed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondering if Los Angeles&#8217; various neighborhoods councils might be helpful here.  Would they not be more likely to have grass roots activists who know where the most desired pedestrian and bicycle improvements in their neighborhoods might best be placed?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3889</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit off topic, but I have a bike now and I don&#039;t know the rules about parking and locking it up, such as where I might legally park it, or if I may use the sidewalks or streets.  Is there a &quot;So now you&#039;re a cyclist&quot; primer anywhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit off topic, but I have a bike now and I don&#8217;t know the rules about parking and locking it up, such as where I might legally park it, or if I may use the sidewalks or streets.  Is there a &#8220;So now you&#8217;re a cyclist&#8221; primer anywhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Wad</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3883</link>
		<dc:creator>Wad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brayj, you have the right idea. While bikes don&#039;t have an explicit line-item in those propositions, the projects can be funded through other dedications.

Kym Richards also makes a good point that bike projects have a better shot at being funded locally. The Metro-level items, marked to capital and operations, are very restricted since both are expensive and Metro needs all the cash it can get. The Call for Projects is a giant feeding frenzy, but there might be a great possibility that a small, progressive city like Santa Monica might lead the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brayj, you have the right idea. While bikes don&#8217;t have an explicit line-item in those propositions, the projects can be funded through other dedications.</p>
<p>Kym Richards also makes a good point that bike projects have a better shot at being funded locally. The Metro-level items, marked to capital and operations, are very restricted since both are expensive and Metro needs all the cash it can get. The Call for Projects is a giant feeding frenzy, but there might be a great possibility that a small, progressive city like Santa Monica might lead the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kymberleigh Richards</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3882</link>
		<dc:creator>Kymberleigh Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but whatever the legal restriction is on Prop A &amp; C funds, it has been in place for 18 years, so I suspect that any legal challenge has already been investigated and rejected by now.

May I suggest that, rather than screaming about perceived unfairness on the previously authorized funds, the efforts should be focused on getting bike and ped projects ready within the local municipalities so that when the Measure R funds start to flow, they will have something useful to put them toward?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but whatever the legal restriction is on Prop A &amp; C funds, it has been in place for 18 years, so I suspect that any legal challenge has already been investigated and rejected by now.</p>
<p>May I suggest that, rather than screaming about perceived unfairness on the previously authorized funds, the efforts should be focused on getting bike and ped projects ready within the local municipalities so that when the Measure R funds start to flow, they will have something useful to put them toward?</p>
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		<title>By: ubrayj02</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3881</link>
		<dc:creator>ubrayj02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wad,

You bring up a good point, but I don&#039;t think bicycles are restricted (in the wording of Prop C., at least) from local returns money. I&#039;ll have to double check, but that is what I recall. It has been the MTA&#039;s policies and guidelines (not the wording of both Prop&#039;s A and C) that has kept pedestrian and bike projects from proper funding and scoring in their Call For Projects.

Another avenue for money from the MTA for bike and pedestrian projects: Transportation Demand Management. The MTA funded a bizarre sounding electric scooter program with the City of L.A. in 2007&#039;s funding cycle using millions in TDM funds. If bike and ped use of the right of way is officially considered &quot;TDM&quot; - then we&#039;d have a big pot of money available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wad,</p>
<p>You bring up a good point, but I don&#8217;t think bicycles are restricted (in the wording of Prop C., at least) from local returns money. I&#8217;ll have to double check, but that is what I recall. It has been the MTA&#8217;s policies and guidelines (not the wording of both Prop&#8217;s A and C) that has kept pedestrian and bike projects from proper funding and scoring in their Call For Projects.</p>
<p>Another avenue for money from the MTA for bike and pedestrian projects: Transportation Demand Management. The MTA funded a bizarre sounding electric scooter program with the City of L.A. in 2007&#8242;s funding cycle using millions in TDM funds. If bike and ped use of the right of way is officially considered &#8220;TDM&#8221; &#8211; then we&#8217;d have a big pot of money available.</p>
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		<title>By: Wad</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3880</link>
		<dc:creator>Wad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brayj wrote:

&lt;i&gt;If they do allow Measure R Local Returns to go to bike and pedestrian projects, then why not money from Prop A and C? That smells like a bike advocate law suit in the making.&lt;/i&gt;

The Bus Riders Union tried the same thing, but it got a consent decree.

Just as getting the tax increases required a public vote, changing the terms of the original taxes would also have to go before the public. Not only that, but the taxes might have to be put up for a referendum as well -- cancel the original terms, then vote back the tax under new terms.

If bike advocates wish to pursue this matter in court, the plaintiffs would have to show some kind of damages or statutory or regulatory violation. I am not familiar with how much weight bicycling is accorded to transportation planning by Metro, the state or local areas. You might be, and you&#039;d have to argue how bikers were violated by the flouting of these laws or regulations.

Keep in mind that in the Bus Riders Union case, it had sought a claim of racial discrimination. However, if the BRU were to win in a precedent-setting judgment, the court would have the power to declare both taxes null and void. They could not, though, demand that rail capital be rolled over to bus operations, as this would violate the original terms of the taxes put before voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brayj wrote:</p>
<p><i>If they do allow Measure R Local Returns to go to bike and pedestrian projects, then why not money from Prop A and C? That smells like a bike advocate law suit in the making.</i></p>
<p>The Bus Riders Union tried the same thing, but it got a consent decree.</p>
<p>Just as getting the tax increases required a public vote, changing the terms of the original taxes would also have to go before the public. Not only that, but the taxes might have to be put up for a referendum as well &#8212; cancel the original terms, then vote back the tax under new terms.</p>
<p>If bike advocates wish to pursue this matter in court, the plaintiffs would have to show some kind of damages or statutory or regulatory violation. I am not familiar with how much weight bicycling is accorded to transportation planning by Metro, the state or local areas. You might be, and you&#8217;d have to argue how bikers were violated by the flouting of these laws or regulations.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that in the Bus Riders Union case, it had sought a claim of racial discrimination. However, if the BRU were to win in a precedent-setting judgment, the court would have the power to declare both taxes null and void. They could not, though, demand that rail capital be rolled over to bus operations, as this would violate the original terms of the taxes put before voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Umberto Brayj</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3878</link>
		<dc:creator>Umberto Brayj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I confirmed with Metro staff on Friday that the local return component of &lt;b&gt;Measure R&lt;/b&gt; funds will not have the same restrictions, and can be used for bicycle and pedestrian projects.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow, really? Kymberleigh, thanks for sticking with this issue. 

Prop A &amp; C Local Returns are still off limits, but Measure R&#039;s Local Returns is open to bike and pedestrian project?

I&#039;ve got to find a copy of Measure R to read, I suppose. Any chance their Measure R local returns funding guidelines are available yet?

If they do allow Measure R Local Returns to go to bike and pedestrian projects, then why not money from Prop A and C? That smells like a bike advocate law suit in the making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;I confirmed with Metro staff on Friday that the local return component of <b>Measure R</b> funds will not have the same restrictions, and can be used for bicycle and pedestrian projects.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow, really? Kymberleigh, thanks for sticking with this issue. </p>
<p>Prop A &amp; C Local Returns are still off limits, but Measure R&#8217;s Local Returns is open to bike and pedestrian project?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to find a copy of Measure R to read, I suppose. Any chance their Measure R local returns funding guidelines are available yet?</p>
<p>If they do allow Measure R Local Returns to go to bike and pedestrian projects, then why not money from Prop A and C? That smells like a bike advocate law suit in the making.</p>
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		<title>By: Kymberleigh Richards</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3876</link>
		<dc:creator>Kymberleigh Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I should have said that it was Mr. Brayj who quoted the existing guidelines.  (I&#039;m fighting a sinus condition and not necessarily proofreading well.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I should have said that it was Mr. Brayj who quoted the existing guidelines.  (I&#8217;m fighting a sinus condition and not necessarily proofreading well.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kymberleigh Richards</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3875</link>
		<dc:creator>Kymberleigh Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole discussion about the use of local return funds left me with an uneasy feeling that I did remember something but too quickly agreed with posts to the contrary.

Ms. Peterson is correct in quoting the local return funds usage policies ... as they apply to the existing Propositions A and C sales tax revenues.

However, I confirmed with Metro staff on Friday that the local return component of Measure R funds will not have the same restrictions, and can be used for bicycle and pedestrian projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole discussion about the use of local return funds left me with an uneasy feeling that I did remember something but too quickly agreed with posts to the contrary.</p>
<p>Ms. Peterson is correct in quoting the local return funds usage policies &#8230; as they apply to the existing Propositions A and C sales tax revenues.</p>
<p>However, I confirmed with Metro staff on Friday that the local return component of Measure R funds will not have the same restrictions, and can be used for bicycle and pedestrian projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Kymberleigh Richards</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3679</link>
		<dc:creator>Kymberleigh Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies to Umberto and anyone else that noticed my inadvertent use of phrasing in my last sentence making it appear that I expected local return funds to be used for bike and ped projects.

The point remains, though, that those types of projects are typically much smaller in scope than what Metro is involved in planning and programming funds for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies to Umberto and anyone else that noticed my inadvertent use of phrasing in my last sentence making it appear that I expected local return funds to be used for bike and ped projects.</p>
<p>The point remains, though, that those types of projects are typically much smaller in scope than what Metro is involved in planning and programming funds for.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a very important question, which projects have their studies completed(or even require a study) and are ready for bids within 60 days and under construction by August 2009?  

That is the one thing the road lobby has gotten down cold. They keep planning even when the economy is bad so when a windfall does come it&#039;s way they&#039;re ready to build. 

The process for the Transit/Bike advocacy is two fold; Create a list of ready to study projects and emphasize the need an importance of bikes/peds in the mindset of LADOT/Metro so that is an ongoing and continual process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a very important question, which projects have their studies completed(or even require a study) and are ready for bids within 60 days and under construction by August 2009?  </p>
<p>That is the one thing the road lobby has gotten down cold. They keep planning even when the economy is bad so when a windfall does come it&#8217;s way they&#8217;re ready to build. </p>
<p>The process for the Transit/Bike advocacy is two fold; Create a list of ready to study projects and emphasize the need an importance of bikes/peds in the mindset of LADOT/Metro so that is an ongoing and continual process.</p>
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		<title>By: ubrayj02</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubrayj02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interurbans,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mayor V’s list is mostly normal public works projects and has nothing to do with transit &lt;b&gt;and only a small percentage of the requested funding is going to highway projects&lt;/b&gt; ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, you are wrong. The massive, overwhelming, majority of the projects in &quot;the mayor&#039;s list&quot; are highway projects or local road widenings. In terms of cash per project, the highway projects are super duper expensive, and make up the bulk of the amount of money requested.

You obviously did not read, or even skim, through either the list Damien linked to above, or Measure R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interurbans,</p>
<blockquote><p>Mayor V’s list is mostly normal public works projects and has nothing to do with transit <b>and only a small percentage of the requested funding is going to highway projects</b> &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>No, you are wrong. The massive, overwhelming, majority of the projects in &#8220;the mayor&#8217;s list&#8221; are highway projects or local road widenings. In terms of cash per project, the highway projects are super duper expensive, and make up the bulk of the amount of money requested.</p>
<p>You obviously did not read, or even skim, through either the list Damien linked to above, or Measure R.</p>
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		<title>By: Interurbans</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3675</link>
		<dc:creator>Interurbans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I was to understand measure R was for transit and road improvement to help move people. Mayor V’s list is mostly normal public works projects and has nothing to do with transit and only a small percentage of the requested funding is going to highway projects and how many of those projects should be at the top of the list. Where is the funding for major rail and transit projects such as the Expo Line second phase, the Crenshaw LRT or bus project, the Green Line to the Airport, or out of the city projects like the Gold Line Foothill Extension which needs to be at the top of the list.

Measure R funding should NOT be used for general non transit public works projects. Is that what you voted for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I was to understand measure R was for transit and road improvement to help move people. Mayor V’s list is mostly normal public works projects and has nothing to do with transit and only a small percentage of the requested funding is going to highway projects and how many of those projects should be at the top of the list. Where is the funding for major rail and transit projects such as the Expo Line second phase, the Crenshaw LRT or bus project, the Green Line to the Airport, or out of the city projects like the Gold Line Foothill Extension which needs to be at the top of the list.</p>
<p>Measure R funding should NOT be used for general non transit public works projects. Is that what you voted for?</p>
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		<title>By: Ingrid Peterson</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3674</link>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the push here is to convince both the MTA and the City that Bicycles are a viable mode of transportation.

If they somehow, very magically, become convinced of this and follow their own guidelines or perhaps even amend them (an idea that Brayj has been floating for a while) then we ought to be able to access some of the local return moneys for bikeway projects.

To review:

&quot;the MTA&#039;s Local Returns funding guidelines specifically single out pedestrian and bicycle projects as &quot;non-transportation:, and weight those projects much lower than large budget road widenings.&quot;

If this were amended by explicitly defining bicycles as transporation, something that would happen as a result of political pressure, then I see no reason to not go after it.  Any and all avenues for culture change and for finding funding for bikeways projects should be explored.

They might not even be *good* projects....with the track record we&#039;ve got set here in LA...I&#039;d be surprised if someone out there actually had the rocks to create a full-on bicycle boulevard.

And I&#039;ve already heard the 10 reasons why bike blvds wont work in LA....trust me.

However....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the push here is to convince both the MTA and the City that Bicycles are a viable mode of transportation.</p>
<p>If they somehow, very magically, become convinced of this and follow their own guidelines or perhaps even amend them (an idea that Brayj has been floating for a while) then we ought to be able to access some of the local return moneys for bikeway projects.</p>
<p>To review:</p>
<p>&#8220;the MTA&#8217;s Local Returns funding guidelines specifically single out pedestrian and bicycle projects as &#8220;non-transportation:, and weight those projects much lower than large budget road widenings.&#8221;</p>
<p>If this were amended by explicitly defining bicycles as transporation, something that would happen as a result of political pressure, then I see no reason to not go after it.  Any and all avenues for culture change and for finding funding for bikeways projects should be explored.</p>
<p>They might not even be *good* projects&#8230;.with the track record we&#8217;ve got set here in LA&#8230;I&#8217;d be surprised if someone out there actually had the rocks to create a full-on bicycle boulevard.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve already heard the 10 reasons why bike blvds wont work in LA&#8230;.trust me.</p>
<p>However&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2009/01/05/citys-measure-r-plan-a-test-for-villaraigosa/comment-page-1/#comment-3673</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon...if Metro can run commercials about how Measure R is going to sync traffic signals during the election, we can certainly expect that it can help with the problems faced by cyclists and pedestrians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon&#8230;if Metro can run commercials about how Measure R is going to sync traffic signals during the election, we can certainly expect that it can help with the problems faced by cyclists and pedestrians.</p>
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