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	<title>Comments on: Proposition T in Santa Monica is my Candidate for the Worst Urban Planning Idea of the Year.</title>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Payton,

I have found your critical assessment of the merits of Prop T to be quite compelling. While I am not a resident of Santa Monica, I do believe in the implementation of sustainable civic planning policies. I find your argument that the methodology used by the Coalition for a Livable City was ineffective and outdated to be very interesting. If this were indeed true, then the foundation for this measure would be based on faulty premises. I ask you though, how did you know that this was the case? You assert that &quot;their tool is the product of a methodology born in the 1960&#039;s,&quot; but where did you locate this study? After searching through both various websites in support of Prop T and Santa Monica civic websites, I have been unable to locate the subject of your analysis. I agree with your belief that this initiative targets more than just traffic reduction. This being said, I question the motives of its backers. I understand the clear interests of private developers and the frustration this may cause some people. However, as you have intimated, if this is not singularly about traffic, what do voters who do not have an interest in commercial development have against private development? If the answer is that they have no qualms, then it seems to me that a great deal of residents in support of this issue are voting on the shallow supposition that stifled development lessens traffic. Though I am not a professional planner, based on common sense I would agree with the logic of the argument put forth by Prop T advocates that freezing commercial development would consequently facilitate a renewed emphasis on residential housing. If an underlying aim of this initiative is to offset the imbalance between commercial and residential building types, wouldn&#039;t removing an option to build more commercial thereby stimulate construction of residential housing by developers? I understand your argument that a policy of this type leaves the potential for &quot;mono-culture&quot; type residential buildings, but if the principle short-term issue is a lack of housing options for commuters, then enacting measures that facilitate expansion of supply seems to be a sound maneuver. Nevertheless, because of its ambiguity concerning what it is attempting to address and my lack of confidence in its degree of effectiveness, I am not in favor of Prop 10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Payton,</p>
<p>I have found your critical assessment of the merits of Prop T to be quite compelling. While I am not a resident of Santa Monica, I do believe in the implementation of sustainable civic planning policies. I find your argument that the methodology used by the Coalition for a Livable City was ineffective and outdated to be very interesting. If this were indeed true, then the foundation for this measure would be based on faulty premises. I ask you though, how did you know that this was the case? You assert that "their tool is the product of a methodology born in the 1960's," but where did you locate this study? After searching through both various websites in support of Prop T and Santa Monica civic websites, I have been unable to locate the subject of your analysis. I agree with your belief that this initiative targets more than just traffic reduction. This being said, I question the motives of its backers. I understand the clear interests of private developers and the frustration this may cause some people. However, as you have intimated, if this is not singularly about traffic, what do voters who do not have an interest in commercial development have against private development? If the answer is that they have no qualms, then it seems to me that a great deal of residents in support of this issue are voting on the shallow supposition that stifled development lessens traffic. Though I am not a professional planner, based on common sense I would agree with the logic of the argument put forth by Prop T advocates that freezing commercial development would consequently facilitate a renewed emphasis on residential housing. If an underlying aim of this initiative is to offset the imbalance between commercial and residential building types, wouldn't removing an option to build more commercial thereby stimulate construction of residential housing by developers? I understand your argument that a policy of this type leaves the potential for "mono-culture" type residential buildings, but if the principle short-term issue is a lack of housing options for commuters, then enacting measures that facilitate expansion of supply seems to be a sound maneuver. Nevertheless, because of its ambiguity concerning what it is attempting to address and my lack of confidence in its degree of effectiveness, I am not in favor of Prop 10.</p>
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		<title>By: Donal Murta</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/10/20/proposition-t-in-santa-monica-is-my-candidate-for-the-worst-urban-planning-idea-of-the-year/comment-page-1/#comment-2871</link>
		<dc:creator>Donal Murta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any propostition to control developement to an acceptable and agreed upon pace will affect traffic. Leaving this to unaccountable forces is irresponsible and leaves it an article of faith which has no basis for being believed.

http://smartersantamonica.blogspot.com/

http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/?p=698

http://www.laweekly.com/2008-10-30/news/proposition-t-the-mostdivisive/

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/politics&amp;id=6473601

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-growth24-2008oct24,0,7337680.story

http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/?p=793

http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/?p=797</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any propostition to control developement to an acceptable and agreed upon pace will affect traffic. Leaving this to unaccountable forces is irresponsible and leaves it an article of faith which has no basis for being believed.</p>
<p><a href="http://smartersantamonica.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://smartersantamonica.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/?p=698" rel="nofollow">http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/?p=698</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.laweekly.com/2008-10-30/news/proposition-t-the-mostdivisive/" rel="nofollow">http://www.laweekly.com/2008-10-30/news/proposition-t-the-mostdivisive/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/politics&amp;id=6473601" rel="nofollow">http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/politics&amp;id=6473601</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-growth24-2008oct24,0,7337680.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-growth24-2008oct24,0,7337680.story</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/?p=793" rel="nofollow">http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/?p=793</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/?p=797" rel="nofollow">http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/?p=797</a></p>
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		<title>By: Neal Payton</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/10/20/proposition-t-in-santa-monica-is-my-candidate-for-the-worst-urban-planning-idea-of-the-year/comment-page-1/#comment-2811</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Payton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan and Christopher:

There are nine days left.  Talk to your friends and neighbors. Email them.  I have no idea whether the measure will pass, but don&#039;t be discouraged by lawn signs.  They are not a good measure, and frankly there a whole lot less of them than I expected to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan and Christopher:</p>
<p>There are nine days left.  Talk to your friends and neighbors. Email them.  I have no idea whether the measure will pass, but don't be discouraged by lawn signs.  They are not a good measure, and frankly there a whole lot less of them than I expected to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Kavanagh</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/10/20/proposition-t-in-santa-monica-is-my-candidate-for-the-worst-urban-planning-idea-of-the-year/comment-page-1/#comment-2793</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Kavanagh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan, I hope you are wrong about it passing easily. I wish I had gotten on board to oppose this thing much sooner, it kind of snuck up on me. This measure so flawed it&#039;s pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan, I hope you are wrong about it passing easily. I wish I had gotten on board to oppose this thing much sooner, it kind of snuck up on me. This measure so flawed it's pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/10/20/proposition-t-in-santa-monica-is-my-candidate-for-the-worst-urban-planning-idea-of-the-year/comment-page-1/#comment-2790</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mindset behind such a measure as this is hideous. It is a mindset that says that there is nothing wrong with the Santa Monica car dominated lifestyle, except for having OTHER people participating in it. It is a mindset that refuses to accommodate other options for urban access (such as the clearly superior high density, low car use model seen throughout Europe).

As a non-driving Santa Monica resident who depends on urban density for urban access and an affordable cost-of-living, I urge all other citizens to vote NO on Prop T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mindset behind such a measure as this is hideous. It is a mindset that says that there is nothing wrong with the Santa Monica car dominated lifestyle, except for having OTHER people participating in it. It is a mindset that refuses to accommodate other options for urban access (such as the clearly superior high density, low car use model seen throughout Europe).</p>
<p>As a non-driving Santa Monica resident who depends on urban density for urban access and an affordable cost-of-living, I urge all other citizens to vote NO on Prop T.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Santa Monica resident here--I have to say, I agree with everything in the post.  The Yes on T campaign has been really deceptive and unspecific in discussing the measure.  But for a lot of people in SM, traffic is a big issue, and so is slowing development--there are a lot of Santa Monica residents, especially homeowners, that want the city to go be frozen in time and don&#039;t want anyone else coming into the city.  I&#039;ve seen tons of Yes on T signs, and I think it&#039;s going to pass easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santa Monica resident here--I have to say, I agree with everything in the post.  The Yes on T campaign has been really deceptive and unspecific in discussing the measure.  But for a lot of people in SM, traffic is a big issue, and so is slowing development--there are a lot of Santa Monica residents, especially homeowners, that want the city to go be frozen in time and don't want anyone else coming into the city.  I've seen tons of Yes on T signs, and I think it's going to pass easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Umberto Brayj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umberto Brayj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess East L.A. doesn&#039;t make that list because people don&#039;t think it was beautiful to begin with, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess East L.A. doesn't make that list because people don't think it was beautiful to begin with, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say that Santa Monica is #2 on the list of &#039;Most Beautiful Cities That Have Been Destroyed By The Automobile&#039;. #1? Miami.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd say that Santa Monica is #2 on the list of 'Most Beautiful Cities That Have Been Destroyed By The Automobile'. #1? Miami.</p>
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