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	<title>Comments on: Cyclist Attacked on Ballona Creek Trail</title>
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		<title>By: SoapBoxLA</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/08/21/cyclist-attacked-on-ballona-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-48141</link>
		<dc:creator>SoapBoxLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, call Councilmember Rosendahl. 213-473-7011. He needs to know that the police in his district are unable to support the cyclists who dare to ride Ballona. He also needs to know that the fenced in and secluded bikeway creates a hospitable environment for crime.

Second, remember that the City of LA (LADOT) fought all the way to the State Apellate Court to have bike paths such as Ballona declared &quot;recreational facilities&quot; and you ride at your own risk, they are not responsible for maintenance and repairs the way they are on the streets of LA. 

Third, ride on the streets. It&#039;s safer and there are witnesses. The residents around Ballona can&#039;t get to you if you need help. You&#039;re fenced in! (btw, even in rural wilderness parks, there are mile markers but on the City of LA&#039;s Bike Paths, how do you identify your location?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, call Councilmember Rosendahl. 213-473-7011. He needs to know that the police in his district are unable to support the cyclists who dare to ride Ballona. He also needs to know that the fenced in and secluded bikeway creates a hospitable environment for crime.</p>
<p>Second, remember that the City of LA (LADOT) fought all the way to the State Apellate Court to have bike paths such as Ballona declared "recreational facilities" and you ride at your own risk, they are not responsible for maintenance and repairs the way they are on the streets of LA. </p>
<p>Third, ride on the streets. It's safer and there are witnesses. The residents around Ballona can't get to you if you need help. You're fenced in! (btw, even in rural wilderness parks, there are mile markers but on the City of LA's Bike Paths, how do you identify your location?)</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This morning 11/11/09 at 5:30 I was riding the Ballona Creek bike trail as I do almost every Morning and someone walking tried to knock me off my bike (west of Ingelwood). I called 911 right away… waited 35 minutes and then left, at 6:45 the 911 dispatched called back to see if I still need response! Both I and the perp were long gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning 11/11/09 at 5:30 I was riding the Ballona Creek bike trail as I do almost every Morning and someone walking tried to knock me off my bike (west of Ingelwood). I called 911 right away… waited 35 minutes and then left, at 6:45 the 911 dispatched called back to see if I still need response! Both I and the perp were long gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo'Nilla</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/08/21/cyclist-attacked-on-ballona-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-2198</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo'Nilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ubrayj02 Wrote:

If you think riding around with a gun is a solution to street crime, then the hoods at the Ballona Creek are not your only problem.

[I just believe in self-defense, and if a gun is what it takes until a &quot;real&quot; solution to street crime is found, it sure beats getting your ass kicked and your bike stolen.]

Killing people is not the answer. You&#039;ll end up in court, having to explain your sorry ass - paying for a good lawyer to save you from yourself. Then, later on, you&#039;ll have your stupid &quot;regrets&quot; when you go over what happened in your mind constantly. You&#039;ll remember what the guys mom looked like sitting in the courtroom glaring at you.

[Killing people is not the answer unless they&#039;re trying to kill you first:^O
If I had to kill someone to defend myself I don&#039;t believe I would lose too much sleep. Out on the path there would likely be no witnesses and I would simply pedal away from all that unpleasantness, whistling merrily as I went.]

Seriously, wake up from you stupid revenge fantasies.

There are solutions to this problem. &quot;Get a gun&quot;, is not one of them.

[I don&#039;t have revenge fantasies, but I do know that there exists in our society a certain element which does not place as high a value on your life as you might. One of the few things they do respect, however, is your ability to take theirs- if you possess that ability. A gun is simply a tool enabling the small and weak among us to protect themselves from larger criminal adversaries.

Let no-one try to convince you otherwise- the right to self-defense is inalienable.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ubrayj02 Wrote:</p>
<p>If you think riding around with a gun is a solution to street crime, then the hoods at the Ballona Creek are not your only problem.</p>
<p>[I just believe in self-defense, and if a gun is what it takes until a "real" solution to street crime is found, it sure beats getting your ass kicked and your bike stolen.]</p>
<p>Killing people is not the answer. You'll end up in court, having to explain your sorry ass - paying for a good lawyer to save you from yourself. Then, later on, you'll have your stupid "regrets" when you go over what happened in your mind constantly. You'll remember what the guys mom looked like sitting in the courtroom glaring at you.</p>
<p>[Killing people is not the answer unless they're trying to kill you first:^O<br />
If I had to kill someone to defend myself I don't believe I would lose too much sleep. Out on the path there would likely be no witnesses and I would simply pedal away from all that unpleasantness, whistling merrily as I went.]</p>
<p>Seriously, wake up from you stupid revenge fantasies.</p>
<p>There are solutions to this problem. "Get a gun", is not one of them.</p>
<p>[I don't have revenge fantasies, but I do know that there exists in our society a certain element which does not place as high a value on your life as you might. One of the few things they do respect, however, is your ability to take theirs- if you possess that ability. A gun is simply a tool enabling the small and weak among us to protect themselves from larger criminal adversaries.</p>
<p>Let no-one try to convince you otherwise- the right to self-defense is inalienable.]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just moved to LA from minneapolis 3 weeks ago to begin the Public Practice program at Otis, which deals with large-scale art projects that serve a direct, active social function. 

i have finally found a beautiful apartment in culver city, which i will sign lease on tomorrow. 
in researching biking options for commuting to LAX area and santa monica for school, i found the ballona bike path just yesterday. i was really excited. 

upon finding out that people are being assaulted, i am obviously shocked. something needs to happen, and it sounds like pretty immediately. there needs to be a mobilzation. 

there is a significant art project that can develop around this issue with community participation and action. 

i have directed several public art projects with youth and would like to offer the idea to do a large installation / performance &quot;intervention&quot; amassing multiple talents and skills. through commitment and networking, we can make a change about the issue of gang members and others attacking bicyclists and its effects on the health of our neighborhoods. 

i would like to organize and put this idea into motion.

with enough press, it will bring attention to what is happening to effectively change it. 

art is an excellent vehicle. (no pun intended.) in a city that is already so challenging and dangerous for bicyclists, we need to make sure that this path is usable and safe for everyone. please contact me with whatever ideas you may have and we can get started on the work. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just moved to LA from minneapolis 3 weeks ago to begin the Public Practice program at Otis, which deals with large-scale art projects that serve a direct, active social function. </p>
<p>i have finally found a beautiful apartment in culver city, which i will sign lease on tomorrow.<br />
in researching biking options for commuting to LAX area and santa monica for school, i found the ballona bike path just yesterday. i was really excited. </p>
<p>upon finding out that people are being assaulted, i am obviously shocked. something needs to happen, and it sounds like pretty immediately. there needs to be a mobilzation. </p>
<p>there is a significant art project that can develop around this issue with community participation and action. </p>
<p>i have directed several public art projects with youth and would like to offer the idea to do a large installation / performance "intervention" amassing multiple talents and skills. through commitment and networking, we can make a change about the issue of gang members and others attacking bicyclists and its effects on the health of our neighborhoods. </p>
<p>i would like to organize and put this idea into motion.</p>
<p>with enough press, it will bring attention to what is happening to effectively change it. </p>
<p>art is an excellent vehicle. (no pun intended.) in a city that is already so challenging and dangerous for bicyclists, we need to make sure that this path is usable and safe for everyone. please contact me with whatever ideas you may have and we can get started on the work.</p>
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		<title>By: BA</title>
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		<dc:creator>BA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did contact LAPD and they do have a record of the August 19 mugging.  They also indicated that they have a named suspect who will be apprehended shortly.  For what&#039;s it&#039;s worth, they did not know of other attacks in that area and did not feel that daytime rides were a big risk.  They recommended riding with a partner and that women especially not ride alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did contact LAPD and they do have a record of the August 19 mugging.  They also indicated that they have a named suspect who will be apprehended shortly.  For what's it's worth, they did not know of other attacks in that area and did not feel that daytime rides were a big risk.  They recommended riding with a partner and that women especially not ride alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Umberto Brayj</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/08/21/cyclist-attacked-on-ballona-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-2160</link>
		<dc:creator>Umberto Brayj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overuse of the word stupid requires a 27 stroke B, in triplicate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overuse of the word stupid requires a 27 stroke B, in triplicate.</p>
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		<title>By: BusTard</title>
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		<dc:creator>BusTard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, ubraj. I can always count on you to bring me back to reality. 

Poor me and my satiric, world-weary olde arse. 

I imagine your are still working your way up the Central Services coloured duct ladder? Or did you spend so much time colouring inside the lines to miss &quot;Brazil&quot;?

&quot;Sorry,&quot; &quot;stupid,&quot; &quot;stupid,&quot; indeed. Try some fundamental punctuation the next time you try to not make too much of an idiot of well, you know what I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, ubraj. I can always count on you to bring me back to reality. </p>
<p>Poor me and my satiric, world-weary olde arse. </p>
<p>I imagine your are still working your way up the Central Services coloured duct ladder? Or did you spend so much time colouring inside the lines to miss "Brazil"?</p>
<p>"Sorry," "stupid," "stupid," indeed. Try some fundamental punctuation the next time you try to not make too much of an idiot of well, you know what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: ubrayj02</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubrayj02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think riding around with a gun is a solution to street crime, then the hoods at the Ballona Creek are not your only problem.

Killing people is not the answer. You&#039;ll end up in court, having to explain your sorry ass - paying for a good lawyer to save you from yourself. Then, later on, you&#039;ll have your stupid &quot;regrets&quot; when you go over what happened in your mind constantly. You&#039;ll remember what the guys mom looked like sitting in the courtroom glaring at you.

Seriously, wake up from you stupid revenge fantasies.

There are solutions to this problem. &quot;Get a gun&quot;, is not one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think riding around with a gun is a solution to street crime, then the hoods at the Ballona Creek are not your only problem.</p>
<p>Killing people is not the answer. You'll end up in court, having to explain your sorry ass - paying for a good lawyer to save you from yourself. Then, later on, you'll have your stupid "regrets" when you go over what happened in your mind constantly. You'll remember what the guys mom looked like sitting in the courtroom glaring at you.</p>
<p>Seriously, wake up from you stupid revenge fantasies.</p>
<p>There are solutions to this problem. "Get a gun", is not one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: BusTard</title>
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		<dc:creator>BusTard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an early August edition of the Downtown News, staff writer Kathyrn Maese (Resident Advisor. &quot;A Jarring Downtown Wake-Up Call.&quot; 04 August 2008) wrote about being attacked and how her husband confronted the attacker. In the 18 August edition (&quot;A Divided Response to a &#039;Wake-Up Call&#039;&quot;), Maese quoted Central Division LAPD bike officer David Bowen: &quot;I think you had the right attitude. You and your brave husband did the right thing the right way.&quot; 

One can easily infer that in light of the LAPD&#039;s lack of action, LAPD&#039;s implicit advice that commensurate confrontation should be employed and the nature of the attacks, that using lethal force in this situation is well-warranted and practically endorsed by the LAPD. I would suggest taking action and eliminating the threat. One or two heads on pikes might keep away the other thugs, or invite them into an abattoir if properly arranged by those who do not wish to be attacked or ride in fear any longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an early August edition of the Downtown News, staff writer Kathyrn Maese (Resident Advisor. "A Jarring Downtown Wake-Up Call." 04 August 2008) wrote about being attacked and how her husband confronted the attacker. In the 18 August edition ("A Divided Response to a 'Wake-Up Call'"), Maese quoted Central Division LAPD bike officer David Bowen: "I think you had the right attitude. You and your brave husband did the right thing the right way." </p>
<p>One can easily infer that in light of the LAPD's lack of action, LAPD's implicit advice that commensurate confrontation should be employed and the nature of the attacks, that using lethal force in this situation is well-warranted and practically endorsed by the LAPD. I would suggest taking action and eliminating the threat. One or two heads on pikes might keep away the other thugs, or invite them into an abattoir if properly arranged by those who do not wish to be attacked or ride in fear any longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny you should mention that.  There&#039;s apparently been a problem for awhile with incidents on trails not making the list.  We&#039;re currently researching the problem and will have an update tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny you should mention that.  There's apparently been a problem for awhile with incidents on trails not making the list.  We're currently researching the problem and will have an update tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: esquared</title>
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		<dc:creator>esquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The incident still doesn&#039;t appear on the crime map.</description>
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		<title>By: David Pulsipher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Pulsipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is very very sad.  i&#039;ve ridden this path numerous times, alone, with friends, and with my wife.

i usually get on the path right on sawtelle (but now that&#039;s closed, making it a better place for criminal activity - thanks LAPD!).

one thing to do would be get  off the path, and get back on at inglewood. i have a sneaking suspicion that the thugs would catch on to being avoided, and would simply move their operations to one of the several bridges.

i&#039;m not an advocate of violence, but perhaps a big group of bicyclists could go out vigilante style and hunt these guys down.  once they get their butt whipped they&#039;d be less inclined to do this type of thing.

vigilantism seems a little rash, but it&#039;s not like the LAPD is doing ANYthing except for shutting down more entrances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is very very sad.  i've ridden this path numerous times, alone, with friends, and with my wife.</p>
<p>i usually get on the path right on sawtelle (but now that's closed, making it a better place for criminal activity - thanks LAPD!).</p>
<p>one thing to do would be get  off the path, and get back on at inglewood. i have a sneaking suspicion that the thugs would catch on to being avoided, and would simply move their operations to one of the several bridges.</p>
<p>i'm not an advocate of violence, but perhaps a big group of bicyclists could go out vigilante style and hunt these guys down.  once they get their butt whipped they'd be less inclined to do this type of thing.</p>
<p>vigilantism seems a little rash, but it's not like the LAPD is doing ANYthing except for shutting down more entrances.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo'Nilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo'Nilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been riding the path daily since &#039;89. Back in the day I used to carry a pistol in my fanny pack, which, in hindsight, wasn&#039;t a bad idea (The pistol, not the fanny pack). But then I became a weight weenie and carrying that Ruger around was, like, way too heavy- plus, my fancy new jerseys only have three pockets in the back and are ill-suited for proper carry.

Thank God for the forward march of technology:

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/review/kel-tyke.htm

At 9 oz. loaded, it&#039;s the perfect accessory for any serious roadie who must regulary navigate &quot;troubled&quot; areas of our city. Unfortunately it only costs $232 so it won&#039;t appeal to many status seekers. Maybe they&#039;ll come out with a titanium cyclist&#039;s version in the future.

But to be perfectly honest, I sincerely believe the only reason I haven&#039;t had any direct interference from these fucktards is they can somehow sense that I would enjoy killing them.

YMMV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been riding the path daily since '89. Back in the day I used to carry a pistol in my fanny pack, which, in hindsight, wasn't a bad idea (The pistol, not the fanny pack). But then I became a weight weenie and carrying that Ruger around was, like, way too heavy- plus, my fancy new jerseys only have three pockets in the back and are ill-suited for proper carry.</p>
<p>Thank God for the forward march of technology:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/review/kel-tyke.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/review/kel-tyke.htm</a></p>
<p>At 9 oz. loaded, it's the perfect accessory for any serious roadie who must regulary navigate "troubled" areas of our city. Unfortunately it only costs $232 so it won't appeal to many status seekers. Maybe they'll come out with a titanium cyclist's version in the future.</p>
<p>But to be perfectly honest, I sincerely believe the only reason I haven't had any direct interference from these fucktards is they can somehow sense that I would enjoy killing them.</p>
<p>YMMV.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve learned more about this attack, which definitely was for real, in the past few hours. 

I stumbled across this blog when a colleague, knowing I commute on the bike path, emailed me. 

Damien--is there any chance you can use this site to help organize a response (e.g., to lobby or increased police patrols on the path, better lighting under the 405, etc.). I know other groups are already at work on this, and I am in contact with some of them, but a well-organized, coherent, and loud call for action is more likely to be heard. If anyone has ideas, feel free to email me at btreanor@lmu.edu

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've learned more about this attack, which definitely was for real, in the past few hours. </p>
<p>I stumbled across this blog when a colleague, knowing I commute on the bike path, emailed me. </p>
<p>Damien--is there any chance you can use this site to help organize a response (e.g., to lobby or increased police patrols on the path, better lighting under the 405, etc.). I know other groups are already at work on this, and I am in contact with some of them, but a well-organized, coherent, and loud call for action is more likely to be heard. If anyone has ideas, feel free to email me at <a href="mailto:btreanor@lmu.edu">btreanor@lmu.edu</a></p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: ShepDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShepDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use the BC path for my work commute and I am very frustrated with these occurrences.  I keep hearing that the path may be closed due to crime which is like putting a band-aid on a  broken arm. If there is indeed a crime problem on the BC path it is up to the police to resolve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the BC path for my work commute and I am very frustrated with these occurrences.  I keep hearing that the path may be closed due to crime which is like putting a band-aid on a  broken arm. If there is indeed a crime problem on the BC path it is up to the police to resolve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey W. Baker</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/08/21/cyclist-attacked-on-ballona-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-2048</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey W. Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very sad that in broad daylight in the center of a major city which considers itself prosperous and cultured anyone, bicyclist or pedestrian, can be violently attacked and robbed.  It&#039;s a symptom of our state&#039;s descent into a libertarian Howard Jarvis paradise where warlords rule their turf in defiance of the law.

On the other hand, you could probably rectify the situation with a few improvised explosive devices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's very sad that in broad daylight in the center of a major city which considers itself prosperous and cultured anyone, bicyclist or pedestrian, can be violently attacked and robbed.  It's a symptom of our state's descent into a libertarian Howard Jarvis paradise where warlords rule their turf in defiance of the law.</p>
<p>On the other hand, you could probably rectify the situation with a few improvised explosive devices.</p>
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		<title>By: esquared</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/08/21/cyclist-attacked-on-ballona-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-2047</link>
		<dc:creator>esquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with KS that this is incredibly disheartening.  The path is such a resource in the city.  It&#039;s a terrific transportation artery and a nice place for recreational cycling.  

I would guess that the closure of the east end of the path has degraded the safety of the whole thing.  As I drive down Jefferson, I notice much more graffiti over there these days, which I think means more gang activity overall.  Failing to clean it off is like giving up and just handing the property over to the gangs.

Does anyone know who one would contact about the construction and upkeep of this abandoned portion?  The signs about the closure went up rather suddenly, and there&#039;s no contact information at all.

Also, wouldn&#039;t it be possible to eliminate/seal up some of the niches and hiding spaces in the underpasses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with KS that this is incredibly disheartening.  The path is such a resource in the city.  It's a terrific transportation artery and a nice place for recreational cycling.  </p>
<p>I would guess that the closure of the east end of the path has degraded the safety of the whole thing.  As I drive down Jefferson, I notice much more graffiti over there these days, which I think means more gang activity overall.  Failing to clean it off is like giving up and just handing the property over to the gangs.</p>
<p>Does anyone know who one would contact about the construction and upkeep of this abandoned portion?  The signs about the closure went up rather suddenly, and there's no contact information at all.</p>
<p>Also, wouldn't it be possible to eliminate/seal up some of the niches and hiding spaces in the underpasses?</p>
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		<title>By: ks</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/08/21/cyclist-attacked-on-ballona-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-2046</link>
		<dc:creator>ks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so discouraging and creepy. I was running on the bike path last Thursday morning heading west. Just at the 405 underpass a cyclist stopped me to warn me off as two guys had just tried to attack him. I could clearly see the two up ahead hanging out on the path by that park watching us talk. 

I run before 7:00am and have also always figured any bad guys would either be asleep or at work at that time so I was pretty stunned (pre-caffeine - make that completely out of it). I hope that cyclist was okay, he seemed shaken but not hurt. I was curious if he reported it to the police, but I didn&#039;t have the presence of mind to encourage him to do it. I didn&#039;t continue down the path, but turned around and made up the mileage at the other end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so discouraging and creepy. I was running on the bike path last Thursday morning heading west. Just at the 405 underpass a cyclist stopped me to warn me off as two guys had just tried to attack him. I could clearly see the two up ahead hanging out on the path by that park watching us talk. </p>
<p>I run before 7:00am and have also always figured any bad guys would either be asleep or at work at that time so I was pretty stunned (pre-caffeine - make that completely out of it). I hope that cyclist was okay, he seemed shaken but not hurt. I was curious if he reported it to the police, but I didn't have the presence of mind to encourage him to do it. I didn't continue down the path, but turned around and made up the mileage at the other end.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/08/21/cyclist-attacked-on-ballona-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-2044</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crime map hasn&#039;t been updated since 8/17.  Check again over the weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crime map hasn't been updated since 8/17.  Check again over the weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/08/21/cyclist-attacked-on-ballona-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-2043</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not showing up on the LAPD crime map...

http://www.lapdcrimemaps.org/

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's not showing up on the LAPD crime map...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lapdcrimemaps.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lapdcrimemaps.org/</a></p>
<p>Brian</p>
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