Comments on: San Francisco Pol Wants to Ban Cars on Market Street http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/ Covering Los Angeles's livable streets movement Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Steven http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/comment-page-1/#comment-74741 Steven Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:53:43 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/#comment-74741 "it would only make sense to ban bicycles as well since there equally as wreckless..." what an idiot! when was the last time you saw a bicycle kill a pedestrian? “it would only make sense to ban bicycles as well since there equally as wreckless…” what an idiot! when was the last time you saw a bicycle kill a pedestrian?

]]> By: Jeffrey W. Baker http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/comment-page-1/#comment-1752 Jeffrey W. Baker Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:09:01 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/#comment-1752 You should understand that the Chronicle's subscriber base is heavily biased towards the East Bay, Peninsula, and Marin. It's not widely read in the city, so you can't really take their articles on urban planning seriously. They do a lot of cheerleading for the cause of the exurban commuter, which means driving. I personally feel that closing Market to cars would have little to no effect. There are already very few cars on the indicated stretch of Market. Normally there are more bicycles than cars during rush hour. The transit delays are caused primarily by "blocking the box" by crossing traffic and transit operations themselves. Enforcement of traffic laws against box-blockers and other red light runners at Montgomery/2nd, Kearny/3rd, and Battery/1st could help. See this photograph for example of Market-clogging motorists who aren't on Market at all: http://flickr.com/photos/jwbee/595871673/in/set-72157600442202997/ You should understand that the Chronicle’s subscriber base is heavily biased towards the East Bay, Peninsula, and Marin. It’s not widely read in the city, so you can’t really take their articles on urban planning seriously. They do a lot of cheerleading for the cause of the exurban commuter, which means driving.

I personally feel that closing Market to cars would have little to no effect. There are already very few cars on the indicated stretch of Market. Normally there are more bicycles than cars during rush hour. The transit delays are caused primarily by “blocking the box” by crossing traffic and transit operations themselves. Enforcement of traffic laws against box-blockers and other red light runners at Montgomery/2nd, Kearny/3rd, and Battery/1st could help.

See this photograph for example of Market-clogging motorists who aren’t on Market at all:

http://flickr.com/photos/jwbee/595871673/in/set-72157600442202997/

]]> By: Browne Molyneux http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/comment-page-1/#comment-1747 Browne Molyneux Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:20:22 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/#comment-1747 They should do this in DTLA. Possibly on 4th St from the Westside (around Beverly/Vermont) to the Eastside (Lorena) using the true East/West definition not the Westside centric one :-P Public transit would be exempt of course, no personal vehicles though. Then we can start looking at Van Ness/Wilton to South LA! They should do this in DTLA. Possibly on 4th St from the Westside (around Beverly/Vermont) to the Eastside (Lorena) using the true East/West definition not the Westside centric one :-P

Public transit would be exempt of course, no personal vehicles though. Then we can start looking at Van Ness/Wilton to South LA!

]]> By: Marcotico http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/comment-page-1/#comment-1745 Marcotico Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:19:06 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/#comment-1745 I read through the SFGATE (SF Chronicle website) blog comments. We all think that the Bay Area is some sort of multi-modal paradise, but they have their own Nimby's up there complaining about this. Of course all the SF insiders know that you shouldn't take Market to get anywhere anyways. They would still need to do a lot of work to re-stripe the street for transit and bikes, as the pavement is a mess of tracks, storm drains, manhole covers, and cracked pavement. Best of luck to them. I read through the SFGATE (SF Chronicle website) blog comments. We all think that the Bay Area is some sort of multi-modal paradise, but they have their own Nimby’s up there complaining about this. Of course all the SF insiders know that you shouldn’t take Market to get anywhere anyways. They would still need to do a lot of work to re-stripe the street for transit and bikes, as the pavement is a mess of tracks, storm drains, manhole covers, and cracked pavement. Best of luck to them.

]]> By: KinOfCain http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/comment-page-1/#comment-1742 KinOfCain Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:28:24 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/29/san-francisco-pol-wants-to-ban-cars-on-market-street/#comment-1742 Seems like it could work. Most people with a destination on market street are taking some form of public transit anyway. Widening the sidewalks and giving more room to cafes and businesses along that street could be a HUGE boon to the portion of market that borders the tenderloin. That area really needs the help. Seems like it could work. Most people with a destination on market street are taking some form of public transit anyway. Widening the sidewalks and giving more room to cafes and businesses along that street could be a HUGE boon to the portion of market that borders the tenderloin. That area really needs the help.

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