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	<title>Comments on: DIY Lanes on Fletcher Bridge Already a Memory</title>
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		<title>By: Lucky Pierre</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/28/diy-lanes-on-fletcher-bridge-already-a-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-1768</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucky Pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@browne:  It&#039;s a hell of a lot easier to make a freeway sign project - totally executed within a private studio, but for the final stage - than a bike lane painted over a long stretch of a public thoroughfare between a pair of freeway off ramps. 


Here&#039;s hoping we&#039;ll see more Dept of DIY projects in both neat and sloppy glory. There&#039;s a place - and symbolism - for both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@browne:  It's a hell of a lot easier to make a freeway sign project - totally executed within a private studio, but for the final stage - than a bike lane painted over a long stretch of a public thoroughfare between a pair of freeway off ramps. </p>
<p>Here's hoping we'll see more Dept of DIY projects in both neat and sloppy glory. There's a place - and symbolism - for both.</p>
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		<title>By: Browne Molyneux</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/28/diy-lanes-on-fletcher-bridge-already-a-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator>Browne Molyneux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if they had made the bike lanes look like bike lanes (the exact specifications of a bike lane) they may have been able to stay up for sometime.  I think this is a GREAT idea, but I think you have to do the gov&#039;t like you do did your parents when you showed them that you deserved to stay up that extra hour. That you have the right to stay up an extra hour.

I&#039;m pro DIY, but you have to be anal when you are DIY. It can&#039;t be just about politics it has to prove your point (unless your point is to mock, which is often my point.) 

You prove your point by doing it just like them. You shouldn&#039;t talking about it. You just do it and show them that it worked for a few months and then showing them going, &quot;Hey look at this.&quot; I like to think of Richard Ankrom and the artist who did the i5 freeway sign. He spent two years planning it and it looked just like a real sign, in fact it was a real sign. 

I think of &#039;zines, the nice ones, they looked just like magazines, once the technology was there to do it. 

People should make their own bike lanes, but they have to make them look just like the city would make them and keep it a secret, hopefully that kind of DIY political action is happening right now.

Change is possible if you work with the force or throw the force out of office and find a force you can work with.

When you do something you always have to remember what the end goal is. 

Is the end goal showing the gov&#039;t that their dumbasses (which we all know) and setting yourself up for a fight (and we all know Americans don&#039;t like losing a fight, they will kill thousands of people just to go &quot;I was right!!!&quot;) or is your end goal to get bike lanes, so that people can ride their bicycles safely. Your tactics have to coexist with your end goal, if not, you may have to rethink your tactics or rethink your end goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if they had made the bike lanes look like bike lanes (the exact specifications of a bike lane) they may have been able to stay up for sometime.  I think this is a GREAT idea, but I think you have to do the gov't like you do did your parents when you showed them that you deserved to stay up that extra hour. That you have the right to stay up an extra hour.</p>
<p>I'm pro DIY, but you have to be anal when you are DIY. It can't be just about politics it has to prove your point (unless your point is to mock, which is often my point.) </p>
<p>You prove your point by doing it just like them. You shouldn't talking about it. You just do it and show them that it worked for a few months and then showing them going, "Hey look at this." I like to think of Richard Ankrom and the artist who did the i5 freeway sign. He spent two years planning it and it looked just like a real sign, in fact it was a real sign. </p>
<p>I think of 'zines, the nice ones, they looked just like magazines, once the technology was there to do it. </p>
<p>People should make their own bike lanes, but they have to make them look just like the city would make them and keep it a secret, hopefully that kind of DIY political action is happening right now.</p>
<p>Change is possible if you work with the force or throw the force out of office and find a force you can work with.</p>
<p>When you do something you always have to remember what the end goal is. </p>
<p>Is the end goal showing the gov't that their dumbasses (which we all know) and setting yourself up for a fight (and we all know Americans don't like losing a fight, they will kill thousands of people just to go "I was right!!!") or is your end goal to get bike lanes, so that people can ride their bicycles safely. Your tactics have to coexist with your end goal, if not, you may have to rethink your tactics or rethink your end goal.</p>
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		<title>By: ubrayj02</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/28/diy-lanes-on-fletcher-bridge-already-a-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-1735</link>
		<dc:creator>ubrayj02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The surprising speed that several city blocks of guerrilla sharrows in Highland Park were covered up last year is a testament to how efficient this City is at maintaining its facade of power and control over our affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The surprising speed that several city blocks of guerrilla sharrows in Highland Park were covered up last year is a testament to how efficient this City is at maintaining its facade of power and control over our affairs.</p>
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