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	<title>Comments on: Metro’s $40 Billion Plan</title>
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		<title>By: KNITTENS</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1391</link>
		<dc:creator>KNITTENS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u can haz unusually tense thred

on midnites ridazz dis is taken care of by specail humor releese valve

now dis also happrens on streetsbrog

iz new feeture!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u can haz unusually tense thred</p>
<p>on midnites ridazz dis is taken care of by specail humor releese valve</p>
<p>now dis also happrens on streetsbrog</p>
<p>iz new feeture!</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1389</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that what that is?  I had no idea what as going on there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that what that is?  I had no idea what as going on there...</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Mercer</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1386</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Mercer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy hell, who let the LOLcats in here????</description>
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		<title>By: KNITTENS</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1384</link>
		<dc:creator>KNITTENS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH HAI!

FALLOPIA SAYS THIS

&quot;If you can&#039;t see through your spokes at how . . .&quot;

LULZ, my spokez r opaque, how i can has see through them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH HAI!</p>
<p>FALLOPIA SAYS THIS</p>
<p>"If you can't see through your spokes at how . . ."</p>
<p>LULZ, my spokez r opaque, how i can has see through them?</p>
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		<title>By: Fallopia Simms</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1381</link>
		<dc:creator>Fallopia Simms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the fact that a lack of decent mass transportation can be considered a Civil Rights issue I think that this is so much larger than ourselves.  Some of us are speaking of actively blocking further access of working to lower economic earners from an increased advantage of what the 3rd largest metro economy IN THE WORLD has to offer.  Without proper funding for mass transit the Expo Line 2nd phase to Santa Monica could not be built.  Nor will the further reaching into East LA perhaps via Whittier or Atlantic Blvd by LRT or HRT.  This continued leveling of the playing field for example, for a kid with an interest in fashion living in Artesia who would like an opportunity to work in some high end boutique shop  in Beverly Hills or Santa Monica must continue and the county needs be opened up. Or any of the millions of poor and struggling people in our county who are effectively shut out because of a lack of RAPID mass transit that plays wonderfully into the hands of the class and race stratifiers who think that mass transit is the same thing as WIC or welfare or a free lunch program.  Far too much is riding on backing an expansion of our rail system which as we have seen throughout the world always has a trickle down effect on pedestrian and non-motorized vehicular travel.  

The worst thing that you can do is create a sky-is-falling atttitude amongst our cyclists community and have people start believing in a BRU type tunnel vision approach, one that sues the MTA for building more trains that have higher capacity, faster travel times, the ability to be grade seperated and most importantly has proven that this mode and more than any other mode can spark economic development and urban renewal like no other in lieu of buying more (keep the poor poor)busses, how shortsighted and what a detriment the BRU has been to the very demographic it claims to be serving.  
No, trains and bikes are not enemies nor are busses and bikes.  If we refuse to be kicked off the train during rush then let&#039;s organize ourselves and become an emailing MTA machine. Let&#039;s pop up at every meeting the MTA decides to have.  What about the numerous scoping meetings that the MTA has held in neighborhoods all over LA county for over a year?  Were we there repeating that bikes are part of the solution?  So it really comes down to not &#039;what the MTA is doing to us&#039; but rather &#039;what are we doing in advocating our cause to the MTA thereby shaping our own destiny and future in LA county&#039; and taking full responsibilty for that outcome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the fact that a lack of decent mass transportation can be considered a Civil Rights issue I think that this is so much larger than ourselves.  Some of us are speaking of actively blocking further access of working to lower economic earners from an increased advantage of what the 3rd largest metro economy IN THE WORLD has to offer.  Without proper funding for mass transit the Expo Line 2nd phase to Santa Monica could not be built.  Nor will the further reaching into East LA perhaps via Whittier or Atlantic Blvd by LRT or HRT.  This continued leveling of the playing field for example, for a kid with an interest in fashion living in Artesia who would like an opportunity to work in some high end boutique shop  in Beverly Hills or Santa Monica must continue and the county needs be opened up. Or any of the millions of poor and struggling people in our county who are effectively shut out because of a lack of RAPID mass transit that plays wonderfully into the hands of the class and race stratifiers who think that mass transit is the same thing as WIC or welfare or a free lunch program.  Far too much is riding on backing an expansion of our rail system which as we have seen throughout the world always has a trickle down effect on pedestrian and non-motorized vehicular travel.  </p>
<p>The worst thing that you can do is create a sky-is-falling atttitude amongst our cyclists community and have people start believing in a BRU type tunnel vision approach, one that sues the MTA for building more trains that have higher capacity, faster travel times, the ability to be grade seperated and most importantly has proven that this mode and more than any other mode can spark economic development and urban renewal like no other in lieu of buying more (keep the poor poor)busses, how shortsighted and what a detriment the BRU has been to the very demographic it claims to be serving.<br />
No, trains and bikes are not enemies nor are busses and bikes.  If we refuse to be kicked off the train during rush then let's organize ourselves and become an emailing MTA machine. Let's pop up at every meeting the MTA decides to have.  What about the numerous scoping meetings that the MTA has held in neighborhoods all over LA county for over a year?  Were we there repeating that bikes are part of the solution?  So it really comes down to not 'what the MTA is doing to us' but rather 'what are we doing in advocating our cause to the MTA thereby shaping our own destiny and future in LA county' and taking full responsibilty for that outcome?</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1378</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fallopia,

The point in bringing up that bike/ped is not funded at all in the planned budget for the Gas tax was to show that Metro is making enemies where they don&#039;t need to be making them.  Between the stories of cyclists being run off the road by buses, the LACBC reps not even getting called upon at board meetings where they turn in comment cards, and now a possible rush hour ban on bikes on trains during rush hour, it seems to me that Metro is taking a group that should be overwhelmingly supportive of their efforts and begging them to not support them.  The comments in this section show exactly what I&#039;m talking about.

We can agree or disagree whether or not building an HOV lane counts as highway expansion.  Personally, as long as your adding capacity, I&#039;ll call it highway expansion.  Especially in CA where we continue to insist that two people in a car constitute a &quot;car pool&quot; even if one of the people in the car is not old enough to drive.  Sorry, but that&#039;s highway capacity expansion without a doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fallopia,</p>
<p>The point in bringing up that bike/ped is not funded at all in the planned budget for the Gas tax was to show that Metro is making enemies where they don't need to be making them.  Between the stories of cyclists being run off the road by buses, the LACBC reps not even getting called upon at board meetings where they turn in comment cards, and now a possible rush hour ban on bikes on trains during rush hour, it seems to me that Metro is taking a group that should be overwhelmingly supportive of their efforts and begging them to not support them.  The comments in this section show exactly what I'm talking about.</p>
<p>We can agree or disagree whether or not building an HOV lane counts as highway expansion.  Personally, as long as your adding capacity, I'll call it highway expansion.  Especially in CA where we continue to insist that two people in a car constitute a "car pool" even if one of the people in the car is not old enough to drive.  Sorry, but that's highway capacity expansion without a doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: Fallopia Simms</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1374</link>
		<dc:creator>Fallopia Simms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!  They all feed on one another.  Density=rapid transit=more pedestrian friendly environs=better non-auto amenities=more density=more rapid transit........Of course this is theoretical and doesn&#039;t apply to places that are economically depressed but we&#039;ll save that debate for another day.  

If anyone has read the last LRTP put out by Metro the biggest expenditures going towards roads and highways ARE NOT the building of new freeways or widening city streets. Rather the bulk of that money is to finish up the car pool lane system in the county and a  huge chunk that is going towards the long overdue (like since the 60&#039;s) 710 tunnel under S. Pasadena.  Aside from road maintenance and upkeep which in itself can be pretty costly, this may be the last big batch of funds thrown towards our highways and roads where transit does not recieve the majority of funding.  If you haven&#039;t noticed LA has built more rail in the past 20 years than any other place in the US and now has a 400+ mile commuter rail system that many of us bike+train+bus advocates use everyday.  

Let&#039;s vote to pass this sales tax and continue to galvanize and advocate for our place in the sun. Let&#039;s continue pushing Garcetti to speak on our behalf and prodding the MTA to include us.  Let&#039;s continue to integrate train+bikes+busses+pedestrians.  

Please let&#039;s not become shortsighted like the BRU who refuse to understand the relationship between different modes of transit therefore blocking the one that needs the other to survive.  We can defeat the car mentality in LA county (and we&#039;ve made some incredible headway already) if we don&#039;t reduce this unique opportunity to bring about change to infighting and the &#039;if I don&#039;t gets mines then you won&#039;t gets yours&#039; mentality.  Please see the broader vision!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!  They all feed on one another.  Density=rapid transit=more pedestrian friendly environs=better non-auto amenities=more density=more rapid transit........Of course this is theoretical and doesn't apply to places that are economically depressed but we'll save that debate for another day.  </p>
<p>If anyone has read the last LRTP put out by Metro the biggest expenditures going towards roads and highways ARE NOT the building of new freeways or widening city streets. Rather the bulk of that money is to finish up the car pool lane system in the county and a  huge chunk that is going towards the long overdue (like since the 60's) 710 tunnel under S. Pasadena.  Aside from road maintenance and upkeep which in itself can be pretty costly, this may be the last big batch of funds thrown towards our highways and roads where transit does not recieve the majority of funding.  If you haven't noticed LA has built more rail in the past 20 years than any other place in the US and now has a 400+ mile commuter rail system that many of us bike+train+bus advocates use everyday.  </p>
<p>Let's vote to pass this sales tax and continue to galvanize and advocate for our place in the sun. Let's continue pushing Garcetti to speak on our behalf and prodding the MTA to include us.  Let's continue to integrate train+bikes+busses+pedestrians.  </p>
<p>Please let's not become shortsighted like the BRU who refuse to understand the relationship between different modes of transit therefore blocking the one that needs the other to survive.  We can defeat the car mentality in LA county (and we've made some incredible headway already) if we don't reduce this unique opportunity to bring about change to infighting and the 'if I don't gets mines then you won't gets yours' mentality.  Please see the broader vision!</p>
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		<title>By: faria</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1370</link>
		<dc:creator>faria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I see it is, if the tax increase fails to pass, where will all of our little advocacy groups be? Same place as they are now. If we can come together and get this measure to pass, it will show the rest of the car culture that we are determined enough and organized enough and LARGE enough to have an impact. This would encourage more people to join our groups, be it Rail Riders, Bicyclists, or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it is, if the tax increase fails to pass, where will all of our little advocacy groups be? Same place as they are now. If we can come together and get this measure to pass, it will show the rest of the car culture that we are determined enough and organized enough and LARGE enough to have an impact. This would encourage more people to join our groups, be it Rail Riders, Bicyclists, or both.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wentzel</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1369</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And now some of you are praising the BRU for their organizational skills? What, to get black and brown dissaffected people to smoke on (white)Eric Mann&#039;s dick while he collects his $250,000 salary a year that comes from the DUES that every BRU member pays while they march around the MTA building like monkeys in yellow shirts shouting for 1,000 more busses!&quot;

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The BRU is declining in influence, largely because of their anti-rail demagoguery.  They were at their strongest in a period where more people feared rail and gasoline was cheap.  

There is an unspoken, unholy &quot;alliance&quot; between the automobile-entitled, elitists who fear people of different races and classes in their neighborhoods, and bus-only transit extremists -- all who want to sabotage rail expansion for their own selfish reasons in the short-term, even if their long-term goals are very different.

The BRU had to do something right in the 1990s to get the consent agreement and get the media to give them so much attention while ignoring other advocacy groups.

Imagine if all that energy the BRU wastes were applied to something constructive.  Even if they just advocated for better bus service without trying to tear down needed rail projects, they&#039;d be useful.  However, the BRU is turning itself into irrelevance by their own actions and so I am not worried about them in the long-term.

If we could only get the media and Metro to give the same credence to Southern California Transit Advocates, The Transit Coalition, and Rail Riders Union as they have given in the past to the BRU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"And now some of you are praising the BRU for their organizational skills? What, to get black and brown dissaffected people to smoke on (white)Eric Mann's dick while he collects his $250,000 salary a year that comes from the DUES that every BRU member pays while they march around the MTA building like monkeys in yellow shirts shouting for 1,000 more busses!"</p>
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<p>The BRU is declining in influence, largely because of their anti-rail demagoguery.  They were at their strongest in a period where more people feared rail and gasoline was cheap.  </p>
<p>There is an unspoken, unholy "alliance" between the automobile-entitled, elitists who fear people of different races and classes in their neighborhoods, and bus-only transit extremists -- all who want to sabotage rail expansion for their own selfish reasons in the short-term, even if their long-term goals are very different.</p>
<p>The BRU had to do something right in the 1990s to get the consent agreement and get the media to give them so much attention while ignoring other advocacy groups.</p>
<p>Imagine if all that energy the BRU wastes were applied to something constructive.  Even if they just advocated for better bus service without trying to tear down needed rail projects, they'd be useful.  However, the BRU is turning itself into irrelevance by their own actions and so I am not worried about them in the long-term.</p>
<p>If we could only get the media and Metro to give the same credence to Southern California Transit Advocates, The Transit Coalition, and Rail Riders Union as they have given in the past to the BRU.</p>
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		<title>By: Fallopia Simms</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1368</link>
		<dc:creator>Fallopia Simms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a sad commentary on my fellow cyclists who seem unbelievably shortsighted.  A successful transit system, one that acknowledges all forms of non-auto transportation is not exactly hatched in full form overnight.  Some of you act as if the MTA isn&#039;t even aware that cyclists ride the trains.  Try dragging your bike on a NYC subway during rush and see what happens to you.  As if there are bike trails lining the D or the M &amp; Q as we have with our Orange Line.  I&#039;m not saying that their is not massive room for improvements but shit c&#039;mon!  You&#039;re telling me that you will actively attempt to halt the construction of possibly the most needed subway line in the US under Wilshire because you feel the MTA is dissing you?  If you can&#039;t see through your spokes at how successful transit systems help to level the playing field for the poor and working class and helps reduce class and race isolation....??...If you have no clue at what the construction of another 100 miles of rail can and will do for this county and our lives as cyclists and citizens you are sadly not visualizing the bigger picture. And now some of you are praising the BRU for their organizational skills?  What, to get black and brown dissaffected people to smoke on (white)Eric Mann&#039;s dick while he collects his $250,000 salary a year that comes from the DUES that every BRU member pays while they march around the MTA building like monkeys in yellow shirts shouting for 1,000 more busses!  That he as a former auto worker has been paid off not just by the car industry but by all of those NIMBY&#039;s up and down Wilshire who don&#039;t ever want to see a black or brown face in their neighborhood to begin with!  Shit, as far as organization skills as least you could have cited the Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses or at least Scientologists on who has their shit tight.  Sad, sad, sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a sad commentary on my fellow cyclists who seem unbelievably shortsighted.  A successful transit system, one that acknowledges all forms of non-auto transportation is not exactly hatched in full form overnight.  Some of you act as if the MTA isn't even aware that cyclists ride the trains.  Try dragging your bike on a NYC subway during rush and see what happens to you.  As if there are bike trails lining the D or the M &amp; Q as we have with our Orange Line.  I'm not saying that their is not massive room for improvements but shit c'mon!  You're telling me that you will actively attempt to halt the construction of possibly the most needed subway line in the US under Wilshire because you feel the MTA is dissing you?  If you can't see through your spokes at how successful transit systems help to level the playing field for the poor and working class and helps reduce class and race isolation....??...If you have no clue at what the construction of another 100 miles of rail can and will do for this county and our lives as cyclists and citizens you are sadly not visualizing the bigger picture. And now some of you are praising the BRU for their organizational skills?  What, to get black and brown dissaffected people to smoke on (white)Eric Mann's dick while he collects his $250,000 salary a year that comes from the DUES that every BRU member pays while they march around the MTA building like monkeys in yellow shirts shouting for 1,000 more busses!  That he as a former auto worker has been paid off not just by the car industry but by all of those NIMBY's up and down Wilshire who don't ever want to see a black or brown face in their neighborhood to begin with!  Shit, as far as organization skills as least you could have cited the Jehovah's Witnesses or at least Scientologists on who has their shit tight.  Sad, sad, sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Wad</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1366</link>
		<dc:creator>Wad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The BRU is important because all the other interested groups could take some tips in how they&#039;re &quot;well organized, know how to do media outreach and could be a big obstacle for the MTA,&quot; car industry input or no car industry input.&lt;/i&gt;

Right.

We should all know absolutely nothing about what we advocate for, carry on as shrill bullies, pander to our base&#039;s sense of victimhood and frame our mission as a Marxist-Leninist triumph of the angry proletariat.

The BRU, just like the communist theory that shapes its frame of mind, has proven to be a failure because its theories have been put into practice.

This isn&#039;t the &#039;90s anymore. The BRU succeeded in its legal challenge and gained an unprecedented opportunity to improve bus service. Instead, it only became more truculent to the point where it marginalized itself.

The post-consent decree BRU is a sad, TMZ-ized self-parody, and what shred of legitimacy it has comes from a sympathy circle of leftists who support it just out of obligation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The BRU is important because all the other interested groups could take some tips in how they're "well organized, know how to do media outreach and could be a big obstacle for the MTA," car industry input or no car industry input.</i></p>
<p>Right.</p>
<p>We should all know absolutely nothing about what we advocate for, carry on as shrill bullies, pander to our base's sense of victimhood and frame our mission as a Marxist-Leninist triumph of the angry proletariat.</p>
<p>The BRU, just like the communist theory that shapes its frame of mind, has proven to be a failure because its theories have been put into practice.</p>
<p>This isn't the '90s anymore. The BRU succeeded in its legal challenge and gained an unprecedented opportunity to improve bus service. Instead, it only became more truculent to the point where it marginalized itself.</p>
<p>The post-consent decree BRU is a sad, TMZ-ized self-parody, and what shred of legitimacy it has comes from a sympathy circle of leftists who support it just out of obligation.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Wick</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1365</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Wick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BRU is important because all the other interested groups could take some tips in how they&#039;re &quot;well organized, know how to do media outreach and could be a big obstacle for the MTA,&quot; car industry input or no car industry input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BRU is important because all the other interested groups could take some tips in how they're "well organized, know how to do media outreach and could be a big obstacle for the MTA," car industry input or no car industry input.</p>
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		<title>By: Enci</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1364</link>
		<dc:creator>Enci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there are no bikeways involvements in the proposal, they don&#039;t get my vote. Period! I lobby hard to get people to use public transportation. But I will lobby hard for Metro&#039;s bad practices if they shut out cyclists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there are no bikeways involvements in the proposal, they don't get my vote. Period! I lobby hard to get people to use public transportation. But I will lobby hard for Metro's bad practices if they shut out cyclists.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Newton</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1361</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the BRU?? Why even mention them. Aren&#039;t these the same people(funded by the car industry) who sided with the bus mechanics on strike that left millions of us stranded without a way of getting around? What a sham organization! Aren&#039;t these the same people who say that RAIL IS RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think you have to mention them.  As goofy as their positions might be, you can&#039;t ignore that their well organized, know how to do media outreach and could be a big obstacle for the MTA.  As Dana said in another thread, &quot;100% of 0 is still 0&quot; but they wouldn&#039;t be the first group to &quot;cut off their nose to spite their face.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the BRU?? Why even mention them. Aren't these the same people(funded by the car industry) who sided with the bus mechanics on strike that left millions of us stranded without a way of getting around? What a sham organization! Aren't these the same people who say that RAIL IS RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
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I think you have to mention them.  As goofy as their positions might be, you can't ignore that their well organized, know how to do media outreach and could be a big obstacle for the MTA.  As Dana said in another thread, "100% of 0 is still 0" but they wouldn't be the first group to "cut off their nose to spite their face."</p>
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		<title>By: SoapBoxLA</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1360</link>
		<dc:creator>SoapBoxLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Metro works for me in Los Angeles because I also ride a bicycle.

Riding a bicycle in Los Angeles works for me because I complement my cycling with the Metro.

Supporting the Metro by encouraging them to perform more effectively and efficiently, it&#039;s the least we can do.

Supporting the Metro by working together to properly fund a complete Transit system, it&#039;s a great thing to do.

Supporting the Metro while cyclists are treated like second class citizens, it&#039;s a bad thing, I can&#039;t do it, I ain&#039;t gonna do it.

The funding commitments speak volumes to our collective vision of the future. Funding auto-centric improvements at the expense of projects for cyclists is simply unacceptable.

That is something that I will not up with put!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Metro works for me in Los Angeles because I also ride a bicycle.</p>
<p>Riding a bicycle in Los Angeles works for me because I complement my cycling with the Metro.</p>
<p>Supporting the Metro by encouraging them to perform more effectively and efficiently, it's the least we can do.</p>
<p>Supporting the Metro by working together to properly fund a complete Transit system, it's a great thing to do.</p>
<p>Supporting the Metro while cyclists are treated like second class citizens, it's a bad thing, I can't do it, I ain't gonna do it.</p>
<p>The funding commitments speak volumes to our collective vision of the future. Funding auto-centric improvements at the expense of projects for cyclists is simply unacceptable.</p>
<p>That is something that I will not up with put!</p>
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		<title>By: Umberto Brayj</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1357</link>
		<dc:creator>Umberto Brayj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fallopia,

Sadly, on this point I must disagree.

If the &quot;modal split&quot; for bicycles is less than 1% - I think our nascent advocacy groups MUST oppose this measure.

Things that should change any advocacy group&#039;s mind:
(1) Evaluation of Local Return projects based on bike, ped, and transit freindly criteria
(2) $1 billion+ set aside (over the life-span of the tax) for bicycle and pedestrian improvements - to come out of highway funds and not to be used to improve Level of Service, ADT, VMT, etc.

I know we&#039;re not even a special interest yet, but those two conditions would satisfy me, and woudl help make this County a lot more equal access to other modal user groups. It would also allow local cities to fund business district improvements and revitalization efforts using transportation dollars - something they are restricted from doing now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fallopia,</p>
<p>Sadly, on this point I must disagree.</p>
<p>If the "modal split" for bicycles is less than 1% - I think our nascent advocacy groups MUST oppose this measure.</p>
<p>Things that should change any advocacy group's mind:<br />
(1) Evaluation of Local Return projects based on bike, ped, and transit freindly criteria<br />
(2) $1 billion+ set aside (over the life-span of the tax) for bicycle and pedestrian improvements - to come out of highway funds and not to be used to improve Level of Service, ADT, VMT, etc.</p>
<p>I know we're not even a special interest yet, but those two conditions would satisfy me, and woudl help make this County a lot more equal access to other modal user groups. It would also allow local cities to fund business district improvements and revitalization efforts using transportation dollars - something they are restricted from doing now.</p>
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		<title>By: Fallopia Simms</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1355</link>
		<dc:creator>Fallopia Simms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continue advocating for bikes and pedestrians.  But you really wont&#039; see any advancement in non-motorized vehicle and pedestrian amenities by shooting down this chance to raise enough money to continue building our fledgling rail transportation infrastructure.  Bike advocates should be advocates for more public transportation just as transit advocates should be and are advocates for bike and pedestrian rights.  This is not an either or situation.  Please don&#039;t be shortsighted on this one.

And the BRU?? Why even mention them.  Aren&#039;t these the same people(funded by the car industry) who sided with the bus mechanics on strike that left millions of us stranded without a way of getting around?  What a sham organization!  Aren&#039;t these the same people who say that RAIL IS RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continue advocating for bikes and pedestrians.  But you really wont' see any advancement in non-motorized vehicle and pedestrian amenities by shooting down this chance to raise enough money to continue building our fledgling rail transportation infrastructure.  Bike advocates should be advocates for more public transportation just as transit advocates should be and are advocates for bike and pedestrian rights.  This is not an either or situation.  Please don't be shortsighted on this one.</p>
<p>And the BRU?? Why even mention them.  Aren't these the same people(funded by the car industry) who sided with the bus mechanics on strike that left millions of us stranded without a way of getting around?  What a sham organization!  Aren't these the same people who say that RAIL IS RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Truthfully, this project list looks like something that LA County can’t afford not to do; however I wonder if Metro’s abandoning of non-motorized travel will lead to a narrow defeat at the polls. &quot;


Well I know of two votes they lost because of their abandonment of non-motorized travel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Truthfully, this project list looks like something that LA County can’t afford not to do; however I wonder if Metro’s abandoning of non-motorized travel will lead to a narrow defeat at the polls. "</p>
<p>Well I know of two votes they lost because of their abandonment of non-motorized travel!</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I forgot the funniest part. 

Can you imagine Channel 4 trying to do a news story on hands free cell phones in the middle of the freeway during morning rush hour traffic instead of the sidewalk?

Maybe one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I forgot the funniest part. </p>
<p>Can you imagine Channel 4 trying to do a news story on hands free cell phones in the middle of the freeway during morning rush hour traffic instead of the sidewalk?</p>
<p>Maybe one day.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/01/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This morning I was kinda amused, but also annoyed because I came across channel 4 doing a news story on the hands-free law in the middle of the sidewalk, completely blocking pedestrian and sidewalk-bound bike traffic going towards/away the Universal City Red Line station. I walked around the newscaster, camera dude and CHP officer by walking into the street (there was no way I could have walked around this trio and remained sidewalk without walking through their taping). Conveniently, the area where I had to walk in the street was where people turn left coming off of the 101 freeway or they zoom over the crest of a freeway overpass (i.e. they can&#039;t see &quot;downhill&quot; well). I haven&#039;t written letters to official ppl yet, but I was completely blown away. I am glad that cars matter so much that they couldn&#039;t think about the fact that they were completely blocking the walkway for people traveling to and from the Red Line station on a Tuesday morning just so they could get a shot of cars driving on the 101 freeway in the background. I thought NBC was supposed to be &quot;green&quot;, yet they don&#039;t acknowledge that some people utilize the sidewalks to get to the train and around the city?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning I was kinda amused, but also annoyed because I came across channel 4 doing a news story on the hands-free law in the middle of the sidewalk, completely blocking pedestrian and sidewalk-bound bike traffic going towards/away the Universal City Red Line station. I walked around the newscaster, camera dude and CHP officer by walking into the street (there was no way I could have walked around this trio and remained sidewalk without walking through their taping). Conveniently, the area where I had to walk in the street was where people turn left coming off of the 101 freeway or they zoom over the crest of a freeway overpass (i.e. they can't see "downhill" well). I haven't written letters to official ppl yet, but I was completely blown away. I am glad that cars matter so much that they couldn't think about the fact that they were completely blocking the walkway for people traveling to and from the Red Line station on a Tuesday morning just so they could get a shot of cars driving on the 101 freeway in the background. I thought NBC was supposed to be "green", yet they don't acknowledge that some people utilize the sidewalks to get to the train and around the city?</p>
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