Comments on: 10 and 405 Freeway Ride, on Bicycles http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/04/22/101-and-405-freeway-rides-on-bicycles/ Covering Los Angeles's livable streets movement Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:23:58 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: LA Bike RIder http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/04/22/101-and-405-freeway-rides-on-bicycles/comment-page-1/#comment-736 LA Bike RIder Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:13:09 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/04/22/101-and-405-freeway-rides-on-bicycles/#comment-736 ubrayj, you might be right, veloways might be a crackpot idea, but as far as i know, we haven't tried any. trouble is, if you expect ordinary folks to bike to work, more than a mile, something must be done to make the ride faster and safer. drawing sharrows doesn't cut it. making us ride on LA's potholed streets competing with cars doesn't do it. as i recall, the original proposal was from brentwood to ucla. i'd be hard-pressed to convince anyone that riding on sunset or wilshire is practical or safe. ubrayj,

you might be right, veloways might be a crackpot idea, but as far as i know, we haven't tried any.

trouble is, if you expect ordinary folks to bike to work, more than a mile, something must be done to make the ride faster and safer. drawing sharrows doesn't cut it. making us ride on LA's potholed streets competing with cars doesn't do it.

as i recall, the original proposal was from brentwood to ucla. i'd be hard-pressed to convince anyone that riding on sunset or wilshire is practical or safe.

]]> By: Damien Newton http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/04/22/101-and-405-freeway-rides-on-bicycles/comment-page-1/#comment-731 Damien Newton Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:11:41 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/04/22/101-and-405-freeway-rides-on-bicycles/#comment-731 The New Yorkers syndicated one of our stories. To check out what they have to say about this ride on the east coast go here: http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/cyclists-zip-down-clogged-la-freeways/ The New Yorkers syndicated one of our stories. To check out what they have to say about this ride on the east coast go here:

http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/cyclists-zip-down-clogged-la-freeways/

]]> By: ubrayj02 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/04/22/101-and-405-freeway-rides-on-bicycles/comment-page-1/#comment-725 ubrayj02 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:23:32 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/04/22/101-and-405-freeway-rides-on-bicycles/#comment-725 LA Bike Rider, An elevated bikeway defeats all the benefits that on-street bicycle facilities have to offer: slower automobile speeds, safer streets, better commercial business revenues, and better liveability. Those things seem like they have nothing to do with cycling, but they are crucial political ingredients into any change in the way the roadway will be used. LA Bike Rider,

An elevated bikeway defeats all the benefits that on-street bicycle facilities have to offer: slower automobile speeds, safer streets, better commercial business revenues, and better liveability.

Those things seem like they have nothing to do with cycling, but they are crucial political ingredients into any change in the way the roadway will be used.

]]> By: LA Bike Rider http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/04/22/101-and-405-freeway-rides-on-bicycles/comment-page-1/#comment-724 LA Bike Rider Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:18:55 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/04/22/101-and-405-freeway-rides-on-bicycles/#comment-724 This demonstrates my pet peeve about bicycling in LA: direct right-of-ways exist only for cars, buses, and trains. When bicyclists asked for an elevated westside-UCLA veloway in the 1970's, in order to ride safely past the 405 and all of the cross-traffic, we were summarily dismissed and laughed at. Everyone who rides a bike is keeping down the cost of gasoline for the car-addicted. Why can't we at least have decent roadspace to ride on? This demonstrates my pet peeve about bicycling in LA: direct right-of-ways exist only for cars, buses, and trains.

When bicyclists asked for an elevated westside-UCLA veloway in the 1970's, in order to ride safely past the 405 and all of the cross-traffic, we were summarily dismissed and laughed at.

Everyone who rides a bike is keeping down the cost of gasoline for the car-addicted. Why can't we at least have decent roadspace to ride on?

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