http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/01/04/its-not-getting-safer-out-there/ Covering Los Angeles's livable streets movement Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/01/04/its-not-getting-safer-out-there/comment-page-1/#comment-78 Justin Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:29:00 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/01/04/its-not-getting-safer-out-there/#comment-78 I totally almost backed into a pedestrian yesterday in the rain. The bad lighting and fogged up windows make it very dangerous out there for anyone not wearing a light.<br/><br/>Justin I totally almost backed into a pedestrian yesterday in the rain. The bad lighting and fogged up windows make it very dangerous out there for anyone not wearing a light.

Justin

]]> http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/01/04/its-not-getting-safer-out-there/comment-page-1/#comment-76 DAYMEN Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:03:00 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/01/04/its-not-getting-safer-out-there/#comment-76 I'll take a look at it as a percentage of total fatalities on Monday. <br/><br/>I'm not arguing that nothing has been done though, but that not enough is being done for the city (50% reduction by 2010) or SCAG (25% reduction by 20something) to reach their goals. <br/><br/>I'm not one of the people out there that see evil in every action or inaction by the government, I know there's a lot of good, hard working, intelligent people in transportation agencies. To some extent, LADOT and SCAG do deserve some credit for the road safety conditions to degrade even worse than they already are.<br/><br/>However, they're the ones that set these safety goals. So far they're not on a path to meet them. I’ll take a look at it as a percentage of total fatalities on Monday.

I’m not arguing that nothing has been done though, but that not enough is being done for the city (50% reduction by 2010) or SCAG (25% reduction by 20something) to reach their goals.

I’m not one of the people out there that see evil in every action or inaction by the government, I know there’s a lot of good, hard working, intelligent people in transportation agencies. To some extent, LADOT and SCAG do deserve some credit for the road safety conditions to degrade even worse than they already are.

However, they’re the ones that set these safety goals. So far they’re not on a path to meet them.

]]> http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/01/04/its-not-getting-safer-out-there/comment-page-1/#comment-75 Matt Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:06:00 +0000 http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/01/04/its-not-getting-safer-out-there/#comment-75 I haven't looked at the details to know exact numbers, but it seems to me that holding the numbers steady means things have been improving.<br/><br/>As those years have passed, how many more people are there in this area, how many more drivers? Bicyclists? Pedestrians? Miles driven?<br/><br/>I wouldn't be the least bit surprised that if you did fatalities as a percentage, you would find that the numbers have actually gone down over time. If nothing was done, the numbers would likely go up instead. I haven’t looked at the details to know exact numbers, but it seems to me that holding the numbers steady means things have been improving.

As those years have passed, how many more people are there in this area, how many more drivers? Bicyclists? Pedestrians? Miles driven?

I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised that if you did fatalities as a percentage, you would find that the numbers have actually gone down over time. If nothing was done, the numbers would likely go up instead.

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